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Old May 14, 2017 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Buelligan666
Make sure you use valve stem caps. The centrifugal force of the tire rotating can push the valve partly open causing an ever so slight leak at speed.

I bought a "https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YCAVGMK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_H7hgzb75ZXZGW]FOBO bike[/url]" TPMS. I haven't got to use it since the bike is apart for engine upgrades. You can see, on your phone, what you tire pressure is. You can set high and low pressure alarms. Just my attempt at being more diligent about my tire pressure. I hate laying in the driveway checking it before heading out.
Nope ... The centrifigual force ( of rotation ) would actually increase pressure on the seal ... think about it.
 
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Old May 14, 2017 | 12:09 PM
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My my, this is certainly a vexing conundrum! I recommend the private investigators pictured below.

And, my money is on old Mr. Wiggins, the retired nightwatchman from the old abandoned amusement park. Most of the time he would have gotten away with it if it weren't for those meddling kids.
 
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Old May 14, 2017 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Buelligan666

I bought a "https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YCAVGMK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_H7hgzb75ZXZGW]FOBO bike[/url]" TPMS. I haven't got to use it since the bike is apart for engine upgrades. You can see, on your phone, what you tire pressure is. You can set high and low pressure alarms. Just my attempt at being more diligent about my tire pressure. I hate laying in the driveway checking it before heading out.
I really like this concept, particularly since I mount my phone on the fairing for Nav/music/FP3. Seems like I saw quite a few concerns about premature valve stem failures due to the added mass on the stems due to these though. Maybe time to take another look.

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My my, this is certainly a vexing conundrum! I recommend the private investigators pictured below.

And, my money is on old Mr. Wiggins, the retired nightwatchman from the old abandoned amusement park. Most of the time he would have gotten away with it if it weren't for those meddling kids.
Damn meddling kids. Get off my lawn. LOL.
 
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Old May 14, 2017 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Larry
Nope ... The centrifigual force ( of rotation ) would actually increase pressure on the seal ... think about it.

Well, I've thought about it and agree that centrifugal force would tend to open the poppet. However, the mass of the valve stem internals is so small that it wouldn't be much of a concern at speeds of less than 200 mph or so.
 
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Old May 14, 2017 | 02:59 PM
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Well, I've thought about it and agree that centrifugal force would tend to open the poppet. However, the mass of the valve stem internals is so small that it wouldn't be much of a concern at speeds of less than 200 mph or so.
This would also depend on which way the scooter was headed while factoring the rotation of the earth. right?
 
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Old May 14, 2017 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Ben221
I need to check my smooth laced wheels as they are always low. Couple pounds every few weeks and drives me crazy and been this way since new.

The front is easy enought to add but the back is a pain and definitely installing 90 degree stems next set of tires
I've heard guys complain about balancing the wheels when using the 90 degree stems. You may want to research that before installing.

I use a braided SS extender about 12" long designed for dually pickups. I thread it thru the slots in the brake discs and then onto the valve stem. This allows me to gage and fill from the end of the extension. I still remove the right saddle bag but it is much easier than trying to get a gage or fill adapter directly on the stem.
 
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Old May 15, 2017 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Larry
This would also depend on which way the scooter was headed while factoring the rotation of the earth. right?
Larry,
You can't use the rotation of the earth. It does not turn at at a consistent speed. The Feds make up for it when everyone is asleep.
 
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Old May 15, 2017 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by danzio
I've heard guys complain about balancing the wheels when using the 90 degree stems. You may want to research that before installing.

I use a braided SS extender about 12" long designed for dually pickups. I thread it thru the slots in the brake discs and then onto the valve stem. This allows me to gage and fill from the end of the extension. I still remove the right saddle bag but it is much easier than trying to get a gage or fill adapter directly on the stem.
roger that and will check the balancing issue. I have the extension from HD but still rolling around busting knuckles to check the rear tire psi, slightly better when I use my jack.
 
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Old May 15, 2017 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Larry
Nope ... The centrifigual force ( of rotation ) would actually increase pressure on the seal ... think about it.
I'm not going to get into a physics debate, but you need to think about it Larry.
 
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As for checking the tire carcass and sidewalls, it's not precise, and much harder from the outside.

inflate the tire and get the bike up so you can rotate the wheel.

Look closely along the sidewalls for signs of excessive flexing and heat buildup. Funny looking rubber, flaking, checking, shiny band, etc. anything that looks like an odd band around the tire.

Run your hand along the sides. Does it feel consistent, or does it feel bulged or wavy in places? When you rotate the wheel does the tire look consistent, or do you see bulges or runout.

if it passes all those tests, you're probably ok. The stock Harley tire has a very beefy sidewall. Others, not nearly so.

how wimpy can a tire be? Wife pulled out of our driveway and could tell a tire was flat. Turned around and came home. Total drive distance of about 100 yards. Tire was destroyed. Now that was a very thin sidewall mind you.
 
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