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Old May 15, 2017 | 06:16 PM
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All good answers to the missing air mystery [smile] after the soapy water trick if it aint found get you some Ride-on and forget it, or do like I did take the dunlops off and throw them in the trash, get you some Michelin 2's
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Old May 15, 2017 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Woodchuck
Well, I've thought about it and agree that centrifugal force would tend to open the poppet. However, the mass of the valve stem internals is so small that it wouldn't be much of a concern at speeds of less than 200 mph or so.
You are correct sir. The valve needs to be pushed in in order to put air in or take air out of the tire. since the valve stem is mounted facing the wheel hub centrifugal force would tend to open it.
 
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Old May 15, 2017 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by foxtrapper
As for checking the tire carcass and sidewalls, it's not precise, and much harder from the outside.

inflate the tire and get the bike up so you can rotate the wheel.

Look closely along the sidewalls for signs of excessive flexing and heat buildup. Funny looking rubber, flaking, checking, shiny band, etc. anything that looks like an odd band around the tire.

Run your hand along the sides. Does it feel consistent, or does it feel bulged or wavy in places? When you rotate the wheel does the tire look consistent, or do you see bulges or runout.

if it passes all those tests, you're probably ok. The stock Harley tire has a very beefy sidewall. Others, not nearly so.

how wimpy can a tire be? Wife pulled out of our driveway and could tell a tire was flat. Turned around and came home. Total drive distance of about 100 yards. Tire was destroyed. Now that was a very thin sidewall mind you.
Thanks for this, Foxtrapper. I didn't note any of these things during my previous inspections - but my plan is to do the spray bottle test, and replace the valve core (stopped 2 places on my way home, and both were sold out of the valve core tools?? WTF??). I will definitely repeat my inspection with these items in mind. Out of curiosity, could you tell that your wife's tire was destroyed by external visual inspection, or only by looking at the interior after it was removed?

As of now, I haven't had the chance to do the spray bottle test, but checked pressure again tonight. I definitely have an issue, as it's down 5 psi since my saturday mid-day brief test ride. Been locked in the shed the whole time, so no neighbor or co-worker shenanigans involved.
 
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Old May 15, 2017 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by smokingjoe
All good answers to the missing air mystery [smile] after the soapy water trick if it aint found get you some Ride-on and forget it, or do like I did take the dunlops off and throw them in the trash, get you some Michelin 2's
Best/joe
LOL, I tend to read quite a bit here, and did consider Michelin Commander 2s as a replacement. Seems like those and the American Elites are the top 2 picks for many of the Electraglide guys. Maybe Metzeler is third? But I've been very happy with the performance and wear on these American Elites so far, so I think I'm gonna stick with them at least one more time. Maybe Commander 2s on the next tire change if I feel like I want to compare.

I did take a further look into Ride-On, and there's now 2 bottles of it in my amazon shopping cart, along with a valve core tool and replacement cores. Gonna be at least one more day before I have time to do more with it anyway, so why chase around town after something everyone's out of anyway. Let FedEx bring it to me.
 
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Old May 15, 2017 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by foxtrapper
Dirty / worn schrader valve. It seals, except when it doesn't.

if you rode it much at 8 psi, I'd be concerned about the tire carcass. Particularly the sidewalks.
+1 It will happen again if you cant figure out what caused it and fix it.
 
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Old May 15, 2017 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Buelligan666
I'm not going to get into a physics debate, but you need to think about it Larry.
You're taking this way too seriously.
 
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Old May 15, 2017 | 07:28 PM
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As far as the physics goes, isn't centrifugal force really inertia acting at a tangent to the circular rotation of the wheel? If so, it's going to pull the little pin (someone called it a poppet I think?) sideways against the side of the valve stem, rather than either outboard towards the tire (opening the valve and causing deflation) or inboard toward the hub (increasing sealing force)?

I think taking physics seriously is important. Or maybe fluid dynamics (at least as they apply to carbonated beverages and ingestion rates) is more important
 
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Old May 15, 2017 | 10:52 PM
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Check the rim itself

The wife had a slow leak on her 2011 street glide

Got a new rim under warranty and it leaked too

Was told the rims had a bad run and were too pourous
 
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Old May 15, 2017 | 11:20 PM
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your killing me it's taken u this long to take a spray bottle of soapy water to it. get the bottle spray the dam thing find the leak and be done with it.
 
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Old May 16, 2017 | 01:16 AM
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Valve core most likely. Changed one on my Sportster and my my last week. Odd having one on both at same time
 
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