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Old May 18, 2017 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by hahmmo
Probably will go that route...I can upgrade swing arms and whatnot, but wish there is a way to retrofit abs!
I'd be willing to wager there's a way to cobble a system together. Maybe look at the early ABS systems originally available on police bikes. My dad had a '99 police bike that I'm pretty sure had ABS...
 
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Old May 18, 2017 | 03:24 PM
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Whats so good about the evo? Im a newbie forgive me.
 
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Old May 18, 2017 | 03:37 PM
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The additional weight of the newer frame and ABS would make the evo pretty doggy.

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Old May 18, 2017 | 05:09 PM
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I bet the rubber mount evo drive train would be a good start? It mounts very similar to the new touring bikes. If you avoid the 2014 and up Rushmore bikes, you don't have to deal with the CAN buss. IF you want all the engine electronics, your biggest problem will be the crankshaft position sensor. I wonder if an S&S Evo motor can be ordered to accommodate that? They come as big as 96 cu in, so power won't be a problem. I say it's possible, keep looking into it. And let us know, I'm tired of muffler, handlebar, seat and oil threads!

PS the main reason you can't make a newer bike sound like an evo is the ignition. Dual fire vs single fire. I wonder if you could program a new bike's ECU to fire both plugs instead of just the one on the power stroke?
 

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Originally Posted by Joe12RK

PS the main reason you can't make a newer bike sound like an evo is the ignition. Dual fire vs single fire. I wonder if you could program a new bike's ECU to fire both plugs instead of just the one on the power stroke?
I assume you're referring to wasted spark ignition? If so how would that change the sound firing the plug on overlap of the companion cylinder?
 
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Old May 18, 2017 | 08:04 PM
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I dont know the physics, but it has something to do with the 45 degree bank angle. I do know it makes a difference, having gone from one to the other on my shovelhead.
 
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Originally Posted by Joe12RK
I dont know the physics, but it has something to do with the 45 degree bank angle. I do know it makes a difference, having gone from one to the other on my shovelhead.
Wasted spark wont effect engine sound. There must be something else like cam profile. These twin engines from that era are all 45 degrees except the v-rod being 60
 
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Old May 18, 2017 | 08:34 PM
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Maybe easier to take ABS off of an earlier touring model. Police bikes had them. I think in 2005, but It could have been a few years earlier. I remember the ABS unit was in the saddlebag
 
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Originally Posted by QNman
Uh..... Not going to be a plug-and-play.
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