am i missing something here or is there no towing section on this forum ? if so sorry for asking this here... what u all think about one ultra in my buddies trailer toyhauler (26 ') and another in bed of his dodge ram sitting on plywood over the tailgate... too much load hooked up? not sure i have seen this but then again never really looked

 

 

 

It will work but the longer the truck bed the better. If you need plywood it is not an 8 foot bed.

And remember just because you can does not mean you should.

 

I use to haul my Fatboy in my truck bed, and tow the 32 ft travel trailer when I had children at home. Truck was a 1 ton crew cab dually rated for a 3800 pound payload. Trailer tong weight was 1200 pounds, and bike 800. Left 1800 pounds for people and other stuff in truck.

If your buddy has a half ton truck you will be over the rated payload. Depending on tong weight of toy hauler you may even be over if his truck is 3/4 ton.

 

As mentoned, there is a BIG difference between the payload (which includes everything riding in the truck, PLUS the tongue weight of the trailer) between a half-ton pick-up and a one-ton dually pick-up.........

Imposssible to give you an answer without knowing the year/make/model of the Ram truck. That info will allow you to look up the max payload capabilities of the truck.

Just wondering why you can't put two bikes in the toyhauler...? If you stagger them a little, you can usually fit two baggers in your basic 8' wide trailer.... It's a lot easier and safer than loading a bagger in the bed of a pick-up....

 

How would you even get a bagger in a truck bed?

 

Ride it up with a set of ramps. Not hard at all.

 

 

I've never even come close to dropping a bike going into or coming out of a pickup. Many times, I hear folks say that getting a motorcycle into or out of a pick up is a harrowing experience. I guess you could say that about anything if it isn't done with a little forethought.

I move motorcycles with a pick up truck more often than most. I buy and sell them so I typically have the equipment with me all the time to put one in the bed (cable locked). I don't need a slope, loading dock or anything else. I have an 8' bed and my tailgate is in the shed at the back of my house. I won't ride anything into a pick up bed with the tailgate on it that weighs more than 300 pounds. The bed is half ton, the tailgate cables, not so much. The supports that go around the tailgate latch pin and attach to the tailgate via the handle latch mechanism? Meh......the latch mechanism is usually plastic or pot metal. That really doesn't add any more strength or stability in my book. If you have a bed shorter than 8' and have to have the tailgate on, I guess I'd use them but I'd surely have a plank or something running from front to back to distribute the weight.

What I use:

A set of arched folding ramps from Discount Ramps (I don't remember the model). It's a 3 piece design that is held together with a long rod and a cotter pin (transversely).

Two Ancra tie downs to draw them against the back of the bed using the trailer hitch mount.

A wheel chock that isn't bolted to the truck bed. The one I most use is called an LA Chock but Condors are nice too.

Four Power Tyte ratchet straps with soft attachments.

A thin piece of closed cell foam from a sleeping pad 12" W x 24" L

A tennis ball cut in half.


How I do it:

I put the ramps together and use the Ancra tie downs to secure them to the truck.

I place the chock in the truck bed and attach the ratchet straps with the approximate length I'll need already set.

I place a cut in half tennis ball (bright green) on the roof of the cab, directly over the wheel chock. This keeps the head and eyes up and allows for perfect alignment.

I remove the seat from the motorcycle and place the foam pad on the seat rails. If it's a bike with a Tour Pak/top case I empty it completely.

If a bike is fuel injected I will start the bike and let it warm up for a moment. If carbed, I will warm it up even more to avoid a cough on the ramp.

I start at the bottom of the ramp, about 3 feet back from the edge with both feet down and 2 fingers on the front brake. I slowly ease out the clutch and climb the ramp looking at the tennis ball (especially important with fairing bikes). If you can't ride a motorcycle very slowly using the friction zone of the clutch you shouldn't try to put a motorcycle in the bed of a pick up until you can.

Once I'm up the ramp I gently apply the front brake and use the throttle, clutch and front brake simultaneously to put the front wheel into the chock. I kill the engine, leave it gear and reach down and attach the two front straps before I get off the bike. Then I tighten them up and add rear straps that PULL THE BIKE FORWARD. Re-adjust the straps all the way around, load the ramps and use the Ancra straps to keep them from sliding out of the bed.

Re-install the seat.

I drive a little ways and then check the straps again, especially if it's raining. They seem to stretch a little when wet.


What I do to get it out:

Park truck so rear of truck bed is sloping down hill. Opposite of what most people want to do but I'm a one man operation. I have to be able to get the bike out of the chock without someone to push me.

Install/secure ramps.

Remove seat/install foam pad.

Remove rear straps, straddle bike and remove front straps.

Rock the bike out of the wheel chock (in neutral) and back the bike to the lip of the ramp and stop it with the front brake. Put the bike in 1st gear and hold in the clutch. TAKE YOUR HAND OFF THE FRONT BRAKE AND CLOSE IT AROUND THE THROTTLE; IT'S USELESS GOING BACKWARDS ON RUNG STYLE RAMPS.

With the engine NOT running, the bike in 1st gear and the clutch in; walk the bike backwards and use the clutch to slow or completely stop the bike as you back down the ramp with both feet on the ramp(s). When you get near the end transition point fully engage the clutch and let the front wheel roll clear of the ramp. Put side stand down, install the seat and put away your equipment. No drama, no big deal and no Youtube "Watch this" video.