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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 08:49 AM
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And on these bikes (since 2009) there is no alignment adjustments to be made. You can check/replace engine mounts etc but that's about it.

About all you can do is loosen the 4 batwing mounting bolts and move the fairing to and fro to see if that makes a difference. Handlebar clamp the same way.

38K is way, way, way, too soon to be replacing sprockets and belt...
So the new bikes come off the line jigged straight? No egg-shaped slots nowhere?
If that is true, I would be more then suspicious and would check it anyway?
How is the belt adjusted without slots?

 
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 08:56 AM
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Is just my negativity this morning, (because of the 40-degree temps & rain), or is it possible this bike has been down before the OP bought it?
It's possible, but if it was down, it isn't evident from any visible damage to the bike. It was, and still is in beautiful cosmetic condition. No body work damage or kluge repairs, but I did buy it from the 2nd owner, so I don't know the bikes complete history.


 
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 08:58 AM
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I agree with foxtrapper, with his two suggested possibilities.

Your bike has the older style forks which are not properly supported by the top tree, so it is too easy for the two legs to be slightly out of alignment, such as when hitting a big pothole hard. A way of correcting that is to slacken off the wheel axle clamps and nut, also the bottom tree clamping screws, then pump the forks several times when holding the front brake on. Tighten everything back as per the FSM. That should help with correcting any misalignment of the forks in the trees.

Take a close look at the handlebar clamps, especially if non-stock bars have been installed. The top clamp is a single piece, but the lower clamps are separate. The gaps front and rear of each lower clamp should be the same, otherwise the bars may be pulled a little out of alignment.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Kingglide549
So the new bikes come off the line jigged straight? No egg-shaped slots nowhere?
If that is true, I would be more then suspicious and would check it anyway?
How is the belt adjusted without slots?
The frame to engine to swing arm adjustments have been removed since the new frame was introduced.

The swingarm still has slots for adjusting belt tension and dual axle cams to keep it all aligned (to the rear fork/swingarm) while doing so. No tire to frame adjustability there.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by lp
The frame to engine to swing arm adjustments have been removed since the new frame was introduced.

The swingarm still has slots for adjusting belt tension and dual axle cams to keep it all aligned (to the rear fork/swingarm) while doing so. No tire to frame adjustability there.
As a (retired) production engineer I hope my colleagues at H-D have introduced modern precision manufacturing techniques to provide highly accurate frame/vehicle alignment!
 
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by grbrown
I agree with foxtrapper, with his two suggested possibilities.

Your bike has the older style forks which are not properly supported by the top tree, so it is too easy for the two legs to be slightly out of alignment, such as when hitting a big pothole hard. A way of correcting that is to slacken off the wheel axle clamps and nut, also the bottom tree clamping screws, then pump the forks several times when holding the front brake on. Tighten everything back as per the FSM. That should help with correcting any misalignment of the forks in the trees.

Take a close look at the handlebar clamps, especially if non-stock bars have been installed. The top clamp is a single piece, but the lower clamps are separate. The gaps front and rear of each lower clamp should be the same, otherwise the bars may be pulled a little out of alignment.
Thanks, this is helpful as were all of the other responses. One of your comments reminded me, that I noticed a aftermarket axle assembly on front axle. It eliminates the big axle nut and just looks like a smooth chrome cover there. I'd never noticed that piece of bling on other bikes before, but since then I've noticed it on other bikes, apparently it's a Drag Specialties "upgrade". My indie was familiar with them and mentioned he didn't understand why people felt the need to dress that part of the bike up. Now I have to wonder if that might play into this.

Drag Specialties axle
 
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 09:45 AM
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I've noticed a few similar to that, but never investigated them.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 09:53 AM
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I'd be willing to bet nothing is bent or tweaked, its just in your risers/bushings. When you tighten them they often twist a little that way.

Loosen handlebars and bushings, retighten while someone else is holding everything straight. Ive seen it a bunch of times.
 
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Originally Posted by oldhippie
...I noticed a aftermarket axle assembly on front axle. It eliminates the big axle nut and just looks like a smooth chrome cover there. I'd never noticed that piece of bling on other bikes before, but since then I've noticed it on other bikes, apparently it's a Drag Specialties "upgrade". My indie was familiar with them and mentioned he didn't understand why people felt the need to dress that part of the bike up. Now I have to wonder if that might play into this.

Drag Specialties axle
Are you sure you have that and not simply a set of chrome cap on each side? Look underneath, you may well see a small grub screw holding it in place.




If you really do have that Drag Specialties axle, I don't think that alone would cause a tweaking. Removing and installing the front wheel axle doesn't cause any forces that would tweak the forks.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Kingglide549
So the new bikes come off the line jigged straight? No egg-shaped slots nowhere?
If that is true, I would be more then suspicious and would check it anyway?
How is the belt adjusted without slots?
On the 2002 touring bikes the rear axle adjusters were eliminated in favor of the axle cams. Been that way ever since. It's still possible to misalign the rear wheel if both cams are not touching the swingarm bosses.
 
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