Is a fuel programmer worth it for a slightly modded 06 Electra glide?
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Is a fuel programmer worth it for a slightly modded 06 Electra glide?
Good evening gents. Im the new owner of a 06 Electra glide. Bike has SE air cleaner and SE pipes, Im not sure if a reflash was required or performed. (Fuel injected stuff is new to me.) Ive noticed the bike feels a little hesitant right off the throttle and I get some small backfires thru the pipes on decel. Will a fuel programmer (Fuel pak, fuel moto, etc) make a substantial difference? (By substantial I mean will I gain immediate throttle response at low speed/ low RPM and will the backfiring stop?
PS- Im not looking for power gains. I just want a littler more response.....As I stated, this is my first fuel injected HD, I know that in 06 they (FI) were still fairly new and Im used to a well tuned, very snappy 2001 XL1200C. Maybe its just the nature of the beast?
PS- Im not looking for power gains. I just want a littler more response.....As I stated, this is my first fuel injected HD, I know that in 06 they (FI) were still fairly new and Im used to a well tuned, very snappy 2001 XL1200C. Maybe its just the nature of the beast?
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Good evening gents. Im the new owner of a 06 Electra glide. Bike has SE air cleaner and SE pipes, Im not sure if a reflash was required or performed. (Fuel injected stuff is new to me.) Ive noticed the bike feels a little hesitant right off the throttle and I get some small backfires thru the pipes on decel. Will a fuel programmer (Fuel pak, fuel moto, etc) make a substantial difference? (By substantial I mean will I gain immediate throttle response at low speed/ low RPM and will the backfiring stop?
PS- Im not looking for power gains. I just want a littler more response.....As I stated, this is my first fuel injected HD, I know that in 06 they (FI) were still fairly new and Im used to a well tuned, very snappy 2001 XL1200C. Maybe its just the nature of the beast?
PS- Im not looking for power gains. I just want a littler more response.....As I stated, this is my first fuel injected HD, I know that in 06 they (FI) were still fairly new and Im used to a well tuned, very snappy 2001 XL1200C. Maybe its just the nature of the beast?
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Is there a dealer or indy close enough to get an ESTIMATE for a retune and compare that to the price of the add on fuel programmer? How many miles? Have you tried a fuel injector cleaner first? $5 to $10 for a can of fuel system cleaner is a cheap experiment to see if that helps first.
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My local dealer is only 5 miles away. I actually worked there as a service writer (well over a decade ago). The bike only has 15,000 miles on it and was well kept. I wont rule out injector cleaner, but I feel most over the counter stuff is just snake oil. Is there a decent injector cleaner on the market?
I pulled one of the plugs last night, it looked fine. I know small backfires are common on the older big twins that run slip on pipes, but I didnt expect it with fuel injection. It doesnt happen often, maybe once or twice a day. Just enough to make me say.....hmmmmmm
As far as throttle response, as I stated, I dont know if its normal for the early FI stuff to have a slight hesitation or not. Ill try to explain the best I can....Downshifting for example. Ive always used a quick 'double clutch' technique. As I pull the clutch in, I give it a real fast twitch of gas before I downshift to bring up the rpms. Like blink of an eye kind of quick. The electra glide just isnt that sensitive. I dont know if its the heavier bike, the EFI, the throttle cable settings (I only had the bike on the road for a week before I had to put it up for the winter so I couldnt test many variables)
So back to my original question....will a fuel management product make a noticeable difference for a bike with only a Stage 1 kit? (And yes, Ill try the injector cleaner and possibly a visit to the dealer for a reflash as well)
I pulled one of the plugs last night, it looked fine. I know small backfires are common on the older big twins that run slip on pipes, but I didnt expect it with fuel injection. It doesnt happen often, maybe once or twice a day. Just enough to make me say.....hmmmmmm
As far as throttle response, as I stated, I dont know if its normal for the early FI stuff to have a slight hesitation or not. Ill try to explain the best I can....Downshifting for example. Ive always used a quick 'double clutch' technique. As I pull the clutch in, I give it a real fast twitch of gas before I downshift to bring up the rpms. Like blink of an eye kind of quick. The electra glide just isnt that sensitive. I dont know if its the heavier bike, the EFI, the throttle cable settings (I only had the bike on the road for a week before I had to put it up for the winter so I couldnt test many variables)
So back to my original question....will a fuel management product make a noticeable difference for a bike with only a Stage 1 kit? (And yes, Ill try the injector cleaner and possibly a visit to the dealer for a reflash as well)
Yes it will make a very noticeable difference. I put a PC-V from Fuel Moto on an '04 RK. It had a map pre-loaded by them based on the other components installed and it was a significant boost. Then a little later I had it dyno tuned by a reputable tuner and got another noticeable boost. Now I just go straight to getting it tuned when I get a new bike.
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Yes it will make a very noticeable difference. I put a PC-V from Fuel Moto on an '04 RK. It had a map pre-loaded by them based on the other components installed and it was a significant boost. Then a little later I had it dyno tuned by a reputable tuner and got another noticeable boost. Now I just go straight to getting it tuned when I get a new bike.
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You should still take it in & see if there's been a download applied to the ECM, that will affect the map you would need, but it if has a download you may not gain much.
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