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Old Feb 24, 2019 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Jay_FLHXS
Since you said there was a blinking red light there must be security. Is the battery dead in the fob? Or is it not even asking for a pin?
Hi Jay, thanks for the thought but it's not a fob issue because even without a fob when the ignition on a Harley is turned on the lights will go on and all the gauges will light up, it's just the bike itself won't start. But I get nothing when I turn the ignition, nothing in any setting... I just don't get this especially since all I did was cut some wires, re-solder them back with longer wires and connected everything back up. And of course there is no power going to any of the gauges so there is no way for a pin request to display either.

Anyway, this is driving me nuts... I'm obviously missing something but I've gone through everything I can think of and nothing works. If you have any other ideas please send them to me, at this point I'll try anything to get this figured out. Thanks again!
 
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Old Feb 24, 2019 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by decencyxdefied
Damn security stuff.. I don't have any on my 08 flhxs and anytime I work on my buddy's 11cvo I have to make sure he leaves all of his keys, and extra batteries with me.. It gives me hell every time, I'm just not used to it tho . You will figure it out OP. Get all the components with, change the batteries just to make sure it's not something dumb and give it a go
Thanks for feedback, but it's not a battery or security issue, the battery is new and I tested it yesterday and it's 100% good. And of course it's not a FOB / Security issue because even if the battery in a FOB is dead, or if the FOB itself is missing, when the ignition is turned on everything lights up, it's just the bike won't start without the FOB or with a dead FOB battery.

But with this bike when I turn the ignition nothing happens, zero, nada... I'm at a total loss as to what it could be. I think I need to find a firm wall, place my head against it, and bang it a few times to see if that helps...
 
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Old Feb 24, 2019 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Jonny_Mac
MAKE SURE YOU PUT THE FOB BATTERY IN RIGHT!
I JUST changed mine out and put them in upside down, guess who was about to tear the security system out and light it on fire when someone on here suggested flipping the battery over...
Jonny, that's pretty funny... well actually not really, if you ended up pulling out the security system just to realize it was a FOB battery issue that would have been really bad. Oh well, at least you didn't do that, you flipped the battery over and all was well.

Anyway, it's not a FOB battery issue because even without a FOB or with a dead FOB battery, when the ignition is turned on all the gauges light up, you just wouldn't be able to start the bike. But for me, when I turn the ignition nothing happens, nothing lights up, the bike is 100% dead. I don't get it, this is driving me nuts.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2019 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by skydude426
Is the kill switch on the right handle bar on?
Hey Skydude, thanks for the comment. Two things, first yes the kill switch is on, but second, even if it was off when the ignition is turned on the gauges should light up and the lights turn on etc. But when I turn the ignition on nothing happens regardless of the kill switch position... Any other ideas? I'll try anything at this point.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2019 | 10:21 AM
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A couple of posts mentioned the ignition switch. Did you remove the ignition switch?
 
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Old Feb 24, 2019 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by lp
As mentioned, if you turn the ignition switch and get no power to the gauges/radio/etc, you have the tumblers misaligned in the ignition switch, or the main power harness TO the ignition switch disconnected.
You should get power to all devices regardless of the security system.
Thanks for the comments, and I agree it's like there is no power getting to the ignition switch, but I've gone through every connector in the fairing and everything is connected, but I'll double-check again perhaps there is something disconnected somewhere.

As for the tumblers, to check that I was turning the ignition I put a screwdriver down into the bottom of the ignition and turned just the bottom part and still nothing happened. Could I have screwed something up by just turning the bottom part and not the top shaft at the same time?
 
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Old Feb 24, 2019 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Iceman24
Re-think your steps and make sure the wiring's 100% correct...along w/ignition alignment. I drew my own schematics for all wires, during my bar swap project...FWIW. Something's obviously amiss somewhere & sometime's is one simple connection error.
I did the same thing, I wrote down every connection; heated hand grips, electric throttle, left-hand controls, and right-hand controls. When I was re-soldering I had my son with me and we verified every connection before soldering.

Having said that, even if we did make an error with the wires, it shouldn't stop the ignition from lighting things up. I might end up with the horn beeping when the turn signal was turned on or something weird like that but it shouldn't have anything to do with the ignition, that's why I don't get this whole issue, I didn't mess with the ignition at all, just handlebar wiring.

Anyway, any other thoughts? Or am I misinformed with this, could a incorrect wire connection to the blinkers for example, stop the ignition from turning on?
 
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Old Feb 24, 2019 | 10:37 AM
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I would check all fuses to ensure they are in good operable condition. I would then verify I have power to the ignition switch. Check for power through the switch if power is being supplied to it.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2019 | 10:43 AM
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I would start with ensuring the switch was properly reinstalled.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2019 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by YoDA
I did the same thing, I wrote down every connection; heated hand grips, electric throttle, left-hand controls, and right-hand controls. When I was re-soldering I had my son with me and we verified every connection before soldering.

Having said that, even if we did make an error with the wires, it shouldn't stop the ignition from lighting things up. I might end up with the horn beeping when the turn signal was turned on or something weird like that but it shouldn't have anything to do with the ignition, that's why I don't get this whole issue, I didn't mess with the ignition at all, just handlebar wiring.

Anyway, any other thoughts? Or am I misinformed with this, could a incorrect wire connection to the blinkers for example, stop the ignition from turning on?
I screwed up my pins because I'm R/G colorblind and the lighting was poor. One mislplaced wire will shut it all down or cause some bizzare problem. I would check your connectors and make sure all your pins colors go across.

I was rock solid certain I didn't screw up as well. I double checked everything. Under better lighting I saw the error.
 
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