EPA Nonsense
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Tourer
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Prove to who? You? Me? the average Joe biker? If any manufacturer denies your warranty and you ask them "prove to me it was x part" they will laugh at you. The legal bills you will have to pay to make Harley Davidson prove to you that the problem was your fault will be more than the cost of the initial fix.
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Warranty is Harley, not EPA. Nonsense generally is dealers disregarding the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. Again, not EPA.
That said, modifications can indeed void parts of your warranty, even with oem parts. Read the terms of your warranty. If you're truly worried about voiding sections of your warranty, leave it stock until the warranty runs out.
That said, modifications can indeed void parts of your warranty, even with oem parts. Read the terms of your warranty. If you're truly worried about voiding sections of your warranty, leave it stock until the warranty runs out.
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I don't believe that is accurate.. The MM Act is alive and well...
The MM Act requires a written warranty, if a warranty is offered, and prohibits a manufacturer warranty from requiring "any article or service (other than article or service provided without charge under the terms of the warranty) which is identified by brand, trade, or corporate name".
1) Harley HAS a written warranty. By the way, it lists several "Exclusions" and "Other Limitations" above and beyond was was agreed to in the EPA Consent Decree.
2) Harley does not REQUIRE (they do recommend) parts "identified by brand, trade, or corporate name" for OEM spec replacement parts (ie: Oil, filters, etc)
The MM Act only applies to OEM spec components...
We are talking about performance enhancing and/or non-OEM spec parts... MM Act has never applied to these parts/use..
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I wasn't immediately aware it was not for the M8. Looks like options for those truly are limited to HD.
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Were probably all equally intrigued by your claim that the MM act is all but dead, and that the EPA can and does ignore it.
Certainly, a fellow like you, who complains that thoughts arent facts, and complains of me putting out bad information will roll out the amassed evidence you have in your possession to substantiate these claims you are making.
i did provide links to the Consent Decree, and to background documents there of. Undoubtedly you will do the same.