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Old Nov 12, 2019 | 07:51 AM
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How many miles are on it & what is wrong? Is it rebuildable?
 
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Old Nov 12, 2019 | 07:55 AM
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There are many excellent aftermarket V-Twins engines; S&S, JIMS USA, TP Engineering, Merch Motors, etc.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2019 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Nomadmax

Will the replacement engine have a forged crank with the period correct .003 max runout and a Timken drive side bearing? If the answer is no, it wouldn't be in your best interest to do the exchange; no matter how cost effective.
That's an easy one..... The answer is no...

OP you will lose your good crank and timken bearing.... best parts of your engine...

I am inexperienced with good shops out here in CA to do a rebuild on an HD engine, but there are several around the country who could do an excellent job of refreshing your engine, with your performance goals in mind...

Many shops have a 98" kit for that year Twin Cam. Based on the performance of my '03 95" bike, a 98" kit should suit you..... my 95" kit really woke that bike up.. a 98" kit would have to do at least as much...!

While the 124" crate engine is the ultimate performance upgrade for a touring bike, IMHO, I don't know that they make one to fit pre-'07 bikes... but I could be wrong...
 

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Old Nov 12, 2019 | 10:39 AM
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16200091 is black and 16200092 is the silver model numbers for for the 95 cc long block exchange with Harley. I also see for 2003 a 103 is available and I’m not sure why that would not fit. But 4000 for a 95 with a warranty and another 1000 for parts and another 1000 to install. If you did the work yourself I bet you could have it installed for 4500. And if you went online you could probably get a good engine for 1000. The game never stops on being the biggest and baddest bike.
Owning a bike is a balancing act you either need deep pockets or wrenches. Simple math a running running 2001 touring is worth 5 to 6 thousand and not running about 2 thousand.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2019 | 10:41 AM
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Call these guys: https://hillsidecycle.com/

They can build you whatever blows your skirt up.

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Old Nov 12, 2019 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnnypop
16200091 is black and 16200092 is the silver model numbers for for the 95 cc long block exchange with Harley. I also see for 2003 a 103 is available and I’m not sure why that would not fit. But 4000 for a 95 with a warranty and another 1000 for parts and another 1000 to install. If you did the work yourself I bet you could have it installed for 4500. And if you went online you could probably get a good engine for 1000. The game never stops on being the biggest and baddest bike.
Owning a bike is a balancing act you either need deep pockets or wrenches. Simple math a running running 2001 touring is worth 5 to 6 thousand and not running about 2 thousand.
The 103" you see listed is for the 2003 SE Road King. It had a 4.375" stroke and spring type cam chain tensioners. It retained the early Twin Cam engine cases that had external hose oil lines as opposed to the pass thru system that traveled thru ports in the newer TC 96 engine/trans cases. This machine was the first production HD to use the 4.375" stroke crank.

 
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Old Nov 12, 2019 | 11:06 AM
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If the original 88 still runs you could drop in an S&S of your choice and if you later sell the bike reinstall your old engine and use the S&S in some other project or sell it straight out. At least you might recover some of your $$ that way. I'm doing that with my 1997 RK. I bought a new S&S engine in 2016. The original motor still run but was needed rebuild.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2019 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by NAILIT RK
I guess I shouldn’t have called it the exchange program. They don’t want the old motor. Just the side case that has the VIN stamped in it. The new engine they send out is not remanufactured. It is new with the upgraded tensioners heads etc..
So how much will a new motor with your side case cost, out the door?.,,,
 
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A number of points come to mind!
  • What is actually wrong with your current engine? Unless it is a real wreck it can be rebuilt, as mentioned above.
  • The reason a TC96 or later won't fit your trans is that those engines have internal oilways between oil tank and oil pump, whereas your bike has external oil lines. They won't work together.
  • S&S sell crate engines that will fit your bike, including their magnificent 124", although it will require other parts upgraded to suit, especially the clutch.
  • While you describe yourself as traditional, don't turn down the opportunity of either rebuilding your current engine to a higher spec, such as the 98" mentioned, or even a 124". If you are concerned that one of those won't be quite adequate their 143" will also fit!
  • Give us your money and we'll soon sort you out....
 

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Old Nov 13, 2019 | 09:36 AM
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With the amount of money you'd spend at the dealer doing an exchange, if you're not too hung up on it being an HD engine, you should seriously consider an aftermarket engine, or how about a hop up kit for your existing 88"? S & S makes complete setups with crank, heads and all and you'd still be able to keep your stock cases, installed at a good shop would still probably come in cheaper than a straight up dealer swap/install....that would be the way to go IMHO. My FXR already has a full S & S engine, if my bagger needed a new one i'd go S & S kit at the very least if not a complete engine.
 

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