Detachable tour pak mount: will not latch into place
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Detachable tour pak mount: will not latch into place
Need to leverage the knowledge of the hdforums force. Been putting together a tour pak for my 2014 SG. As I went to test fit just the detachable tour pak mount, it seemed like it was going to install just like my plain luggage rack - but the latches will not fully (or easily) rotate and click into place.
Things I've thought of or tried:
1. With only the rear section in place (front C bushings NOT locked into the docking points) the rear latches snap easily into place as they should.
2. The front c sections of the mount slide into place easily. The rear needs to be aligned or spread even so slightly but they go right on.
3. I've measured for square, compared the base of the mount to the base of my plain luggage rack. Seems square and bases seem to line up together.
4. The C shaped bushings seem fine. Even swapped them with those on the luggage rack. Even tried installing without the C bushings. No change.
5. I did have to flip around the rear docking bushings to gain a bit of extra space - not sure this has any bearing on the problem.
6. Spacing of the mount points with the docking points installed seems ok. Not much different than the luggage rack.
7. Tried a light oil on the docking point surfaces. No change.
The only real thing I can think to be the issue is the cutout for the rear docking points on the mount seem a little more narrow, or steep than on the luggage rack. But then again, Harley makes thousands of these a year I'm sure. The design is easily repeatable during manufacturing. I guess.
The fact that the latches work as designed when on the rear only (front points not on) indicate something. And the fact that they would not latch without the C bushings installed on the front. I just cannot figure what. Maybe when the front docking points are engaged it somehow, slightly is preventing the rear notches to fully seat on the rear docking points. Would indicate the part is not cut to align?
Things I've thought of or tried:
1. With only the rear section in place (front C bushings NOT locked into the docking points) the rear latches snap easily into place as they should.
2. The front c sections of the mount slide into place easily. The rear needs to be aligned or spread even so slightly but they go right on.
3. I've measured for square, compared the base of the mount to the base of my plain luggage rack. Seems square and bases seem to line up together.
4. The C shaped bushings seem fine. Even swapped them with those on the luggage rack. Even tried installing without the C bushings. No change.
5. I did have to flip around the rear docking bushings to gain a bit of extra space - not sure this has any bearing on the problem.
6. Spacing of the mount points with the docking points installed seems ok. Not much different than the luggage rack.
7. Tried a light oil on the docking point surfaces. No change.
The only real thing I can think to be the issue is the cutout for the rear docking points on the mount seem a little more narrow, or steep than on the luggage rack. But then again, Harley makes thousands of these a year I'm sure. The design is easily repeatable during manufacturing. I guess.
The fact that the latches work as designed when on the rear only (front points not on) indicate something. And the fact that they would not latch without the C bushings installed on the front. I just cannot figure what. Maybe when the front docking points are engaged it somehow, slightly is preventing the rear notches to fully seat on the rear docking points. Would indicate the part is not cut to align?
Last edited by RomeoTango; May 2, 2020 at 06:30 PM.
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Idk if it's a new install for the mount on the bike or not but when I used the cheap stuff on mine it definitely took some haggling. If I remember correctly I left the stuff snug but not tight to give wiggle room and went from there. I had to replace the clamps to the oem ones cuz the cheap ones were horrible. Now it's easy on easy off
Mine didn't come with instructions so I pulled the oem set and it worked out. It was definitely frustrating so you're on the right track
Mine didn't come with instructions so I pulled the oem set and it worked out. It was definitely frustrating so you're on the right track
Last edited by decencyxdefied; May 2, 2020 at 06:40 PM.
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This won't help with the original rack you had installed but should help with tour pack. What I had to do was play with shimming the mount pegs with washers. I moved the mounts in and out (no washers) until It work. Then I took the tour pack off and figured out what thickness of washers I needed on the mounts. I applied a little lock tight and all is well.
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The rubber part the latches latch on to are not round. They are eccentric. Loosen the bolt that holds them on where you can rotate the rubber docking part and rotate it a quarter turn and try the latch again. If it still does not latch rotate it some more until the latch latches.
They are eccentric so you can take the slop out so the tour pack doesnt have play in the mount once latched. Each side will have to be adjusted and if you have something else you attach when not using the tour pack it may have to be adjusted for that. I ran into the same problem. This is true if you are using factory docking points. Aftermarket I dont know.
They are eccentric so you can take the slop out so the tour pack doesnt have play in the mount once latched. Each side will have to be adjusted and if you have something else you attach when not using the tour pack it may have to be adjusted for that. I ran into the same problem. This is true if you are using factory docking points. Aftermarket I dont know.
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The rubber part the latches latch on to are not round. They are eccentric. Loosen the bolt that holds them on where you can rotate the rubber docking part and rotate it a quarter turn and try the latch again. If it still does not latch rotate it some more until the latch latches.
They are eccentric so you can take the slop out so the tour pack doesnt have play in the mount once latched. Each side will have to be adjusted and if you have something else you attach when not using the tour pack it may have to be adjusted for that. I ran into the same problem. This is true if you are using factory docking points. Aftermarket I dont know.
They are eccentric so you can take the slop out so the tour pack doesnt have play in the mount once latched. Each side will have to be adjusted and if you have something else you attach when not using the tour pack it may have to be adjusted for that. I ran into the same problem. This is true if you are using factory docking points. Aftermarket I dont know.
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From: Providence Forge, VA
The rubber part the latches latch on to are not round. They are eccentric. Loosen the bolt that holds them on where you can rotate the rubber docking part and rotate it a quarter turn and try the latch again. If it still does not latch rotate it some more until the latch latches.
They are eccentric so you can take the slop out so the tour pack doesnt have play in the mount once latched. Each side will have to be adjusted and if you have something else you attach when not using the tour pack it may have to be adjusted for that. I ran into the same problem. This is true if you are using factory docking points. Aftermarket I dont know.
They are eccentric so you can take the slop out so the tour pack doesnt have play in the mount once latched. Each side will have to be adjusted and if you have something else you attach when not using the tour pack it may have to be adjusted for that. I ran into the same problem. This is true if you are using factory docking points. Aftermarket I dont know.
Good on you brother! I had this issue a long time ago and struggled with it as well. I tried shimming the mounting points with washers and eventually got it to work. It wasn't until a year or so later while at my local dealership that the tech mentioned the exact same thing you did. If I had known that back then, I could have saved myself a lot of work.
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The rubber part the latches latch on to are not round. They are eccentric. Loosen the bolt that holds them on where you can rotate the rubber docking part and rotate it a quarter turn and try the latch again. If it still does not latch rotate it some more until the latch latches.
They are eccentric so you can take the slop out so the tour pack doesnt have play in the mount once latched. Each side will have to be adjusted and if you have something else you attach when not using the tour pack it may have to be adjusted for that. I ran into the same problem. This is true if you are using factory docking points. Aftermarket I dont know.
They are eccentric so you can take the slop out so the tour pack doesnt have play in the mount once latched. Each side will have to be adjusted and if you have something else you attach when not using the tour pack it may have to be adjusted for that. I ran into the same problem. This is true if you are using factory docking points. Aftermarket I dont know.