Jim's lifter failures
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From: Indianapolis, IN
My Hy-Lift Johnson lifters came today, ordered 2313SLE and the box has 842SEL written on the outside..... Larry doesn't seem to respond to emails or calls
Last edited by Circa58; Sep 28, 2020 at 03:07 PM.
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From: Indianapolis, IN
Thanks, he replied to an email stating the same, I have to send one lifter back, on lifter roller had a bad spot on the roller surface,,, the grinder clean up dimension was unable to grind a low spot and stay with the OD tolerance... so I get to mail one back at my cost, so they can swap it out,...
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From: NC Mountains
Yep-ers,, Soon as this month's "Gravy Train" rolls into the station I'm ordering a 4-pack of the 2313SE model right around 199.00 and change for whats at this address,, https://larrysmcymachineinc.square.site/
2313SE
I had been looking at a set Of Jim's new in the box mfg date 2015 on ebay for 415.00. glad I saw your misfortune, not that I am happy about it. Just goes to reinforce my coin toss. Give this some research. every one I've talked to is happy, happy happy with WTO Larry,,
2313SE
2313SE
$199.00
for the 4 pakI had been looking at a set Of Jim's new in the box mfg date 2015 on ebay for 415.00. glad I saw your misfortune, not that I am happy about it. Just goes to reinforce my coin toss. Give this some research. every one I've talked to is happy, happy happy with WTO Larry,,
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Reviving an old thread here,,
I just put Jim’s lifter in my Evo. (Total rebuild). Turned the motor over and there was no compression in the front cylinder. Ended up finding the exhaust lifter had fallen apart and the piston was stuck inside. After getting it apart and cleaning it. It still doesn’t move smoothly. Feels very gritty. Now I’m afraid to use any of them.
Anyone aver come across this?
I just put Jim’s lifter in my Evo. (Total rebuild). Turned the motor over and there was no compression in the front cylinder. Ended up finding the exhaust lifter had fallen apart and the piston was stuck inside. After getting it apart and cleaning it. It still doesn’t move smoothly. Feels very gritty. Now I’m afraid to use any of them.
Anyone aver come across this?
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Lets hit the way back button,and what did you set the pre-load on the lifters from the start.
If not enough pre load on the lifter from the push rods, then any lifter is going to be hammering it self to death to begin with.
Also, the pro's and cons of the slow leak down lifters, comes down to are you dam sure that any oil remaining in the case, has been removed, as well as derbies too.
With how tight the piston it to the ID of the body, trash in oil, can cause the pistons to stick to body, to cause them to hammer as well.
Simply put, with any lifter, and more radical cam, pre load for any lifter, should be half the distance that the piston can be pushed down in the body, and with a lot of suggested push rod adjustments, or using the wrong amount of turns for push rods that have finer threading, can end up with push rod not putting enough pre load on the lifter to cause it to hammer it self to death.
So with Johnson lifters and no limiter rings in play, pre load should have been set at .100" at least, and maybe another turn on the push rod is still making noise once they do pump up.
If not enough pre load on the lifter from the push rods, then any lifter is going to be hammering it self to death to begin with.
Also, the pro's and cons of the slow leak down lifters, comes down to are you dam sure that any oil remaining in the case, has been removed, as well as derbies too.
With how tight the piston it to the ID of the body, trash in oil, can cause the pistons to stick to body, to cause them to hammer as well.
Simply put, with any lifter, and more radical cam, pre load for any lifter, should be half the distance that the piston can be pushed down in the body, and with a lot of suggested push rod adjustments, or using the wrong amount of turns for push rods that have finer threading, can end up with push rod not putting enough pre load on the lifter to cause it to hammer it self to death.
So with Johnson lifters and no limiter rings in play, pre load should have been set at .100" at least, and maybe another turn on the push rod is still making noise once they do pump up.
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Reviving an old thread here,, I just put Jims lifter in my Evo. (Total rebuild). Turned the motor over and there was no compression in the front cylinder. Ended up finding the exhaust lifter had fallen apart and the piston was stuck inside. After getting it apart and cleaning it. It still doesnt move smoothly. Feels very gritty. Now Im afraid to use any of them. Anyone aver come across this?