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Old Jun 3, 2020 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by skratch

now, you say 'before you ride', does that mean that you are doing this after you've started the engine? if the bike is running, it will not 'remember' your setting, you have to have the bike off when you do it.
Bike is off. So let's say on Monday I push throttle and see EITMS is off, I then go for a ride, come home and then park the bike. Come Tuesday, I push the throttle and then I confirm the EITMS is off. If I didn't push up on throttle, the EITMS will be engaged. I was hoping I can change the default, but apparently I have to have the dealers do that. Will they charge me for that? Or how about the Vance and Hine's FP3, can I make the changes with. that? That will be my next post after I get through all the posts...

FP3 or Street tuner????
 
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Old Jun 3, 2020 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Keithhu
That's because at one point the dealer set it that way. I don't think that's the default from the factory on that year.
Hmmm, well honestly I only ever turned it off once just to know how to do it so I could be mistaken. It does sound odd when it kicks in but I've never had the 'blip the throttle before trying to move forward' thing I hear people complain about.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2020 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Jason S
Bike is off. So let's say on Monday I push throttle and see EITMS is off, I then go for a ride, come home and then park the bike. Come Tuesday, I push the throttle and then I confirm the EITMS is off. If I didn't push up on throttle, the EITMS will be engaged. I was hoping I can change the default, but apparently I have to have the dealers do that. Will they charge me for that? Or how about the Vance and Hine's FP3, can I make the changes with. that? That will be my next post after I get through all the posts...

FP3 or Street tuner????
sounds like when you are trying to confirm that the eitms is enabled/disabled that you are actually changing the setting. if you set it to off on monday, then on tues, you go through the same process, then you are changing it from off to on. now you've got to do it again to switch it off. does that make sense? kind of a set and forget type thing.

and just for clarification, there are two 'states'. one is enabled/disabled and the other engaged/disengaged. you can only enable or disable. you can not force it to engage or disengage, (well, technically i guess you could force a disengage if you were to completely disable the setting) that is determined by a preset criteria in the ecm.

you don't need to do anything with the dealer. default from the factory is disabled. but once you change that, you just have to change it again.

the pic i attached in post #10 is an excerpt from your owner's manual. just follow that and you should be good.
 

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Old Jun 3, 2020 | 08:49 PM
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"Come Tuesday, I push the throttle and then I confirm the EITMS is off. If I didn't push up on throttle, the EITMS will be engaged."

I think when you do that on Tuesday you are turning it back on. Set it to where you want it and leave it alone, it should be always off or on depending where you set it.

I just set mine to where I want it and leave it (on). Where I am it rarely kicks in and when it does; yes the bike sounds weird with one cylinder firing and the other an air pump. It doesn't hurt anything and is a bit cooler at a long stop light. Rear cylinder fires immediately when the throttle is moved. Works perfectly on my machine.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2020 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Jason S
Bike is off. So let's say on Monday I push throttle and see EITMS is off, I then go for a ride, come home and then park the bike. Come Tuesday, I push the throttle and then I confirm the EITMS is off. If I didn't push up on throttle, the EITMS will be engaged.
Stop doing it that way.
Every time you do that you changing it again. If it was off, it will now be back on. If it was already on, it will then be off.
Do it one time to turn it off, and don't do it again. When you think you are checking to see if it is off, you are just turning it back on.

Originally Posted by skratch
sounds like when you are trying to confirm that the eitms is enabled/disabled that you are actually changing the setting. if you set it to off on monday, then on tues, you go through the same process, then you are changing it from off to on. now you've got to do it again to switch it off. does that make sense? kind of a set and forget type thing.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2020 | 10:54 AM
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Well , I learned a lot from this thread , so thanks are in order to all who made sense of this . It never really bothered me what the eitms was set at , but this thread caught my curiosity . I decided to head out yesterday and do some testing . Before I started the bike , I set the eitms to disabled ( ignition on , kill switch on ) , by holding the throttle forward until the cc light started to flash amber , then started the bike and took off for my test run . While I was riding around I decided to enable the eitms at the next stop ( bike at idle , light flashed green ) . I knew it would never activate because the temps here are just not warm enough to do so . I then pulled into a parking lot and shut the bike down , knowing I had activated ( green flashing ) the eitms at the previous light . When I started it back up , I checked the eitms setting , ( rolling the throttle forward ) it flashed green , which told me it went back to my previous setting , disabled when the bike was shut down . So that tells me , the bike will always remember what setting you want it at during the initial start up , and you can enable/disable it while it's running , but it will always go back to whatever you set it at during the non running set up . Same goes for having it in the reversed procedure , pretty cool .
 
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Old Jun 4, 2020 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by RollaMo
Stop doing it that way.
Every time you do that you changing it again. If it was off, it will now be back on. If it was already on, it will then be off.
Do it one time to turn it off, and don't do it again. When you think you are checking to see if it is off, you are just turning it back on.



Mine does not work that way. When I turn my bike off, it automatically will default to EITMS on. I think a lot gets lost in translation when trying to explain in writing. I will record what I'm seeing and figure out how to post the vid.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2020 | 11:57 AM
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What makes you think that it is "enabled" just by turning off the bike?
 
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Old Jun 4, 2020 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by RyanSS
What makes you think that it is "enabled" just by turning off the bike?
because when I start the bike again and push the throttle forward, the cruise control light flashes amber (the same state as I left it when I turned it off). If it was staying disabled after I shut her down, wouldn't logic say the next time I push the throttle forward it would now turn on (flash green)?
 
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Old Jun 4, 2020 | 12:09 PM
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No...you're missing everyone's point. When you start the bike again, it's off (because you turned it off the last time you rode the bike). NOw....when you start the bike again and push the throttle forward until the CC light flashes....you're turning it back ON.

Try this.....turn it off.......drive the bike and verify it doesn't engage. Shut the bike off and park it. Then, when you start the bike again, just ride it. It should still be off. Everytime you're "checking" it....you're turning it back on.
 
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