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Old Aug 27, 2021 | 01:56 PM
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Looks like New Castle of Pa has one in stock. So where did you buy it, and who there told you was not available anymore? Damn, it's a brand new bike and system I find hard that they would of done away with it already first poster.
 

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Old Feb 17, 2022 | 07:59 AM
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Sorry if this has been covered already, I'd not had chance to go through every post, but I've always found the clutch lever on my 2019 Road King pretty heavy (noticeably heavier than any other bike I've ridden except other Harleys) and is 'tiring' when in heavy stop start traffic, especially considering that I live in a hilly part of the world. Would the new cable clutch make the lever heavier or lighter to use?
 
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Old Feb 17, 2022 | 10:06 AM
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Wouldn't change it. The pull force can be changed with a different clutch spring, or a different clutch actuator. Muller makes a ball& ramp assembly that reduces lever effort, by 40%, but also reduces clutch throw.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2022 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by rigidthumper
Wouldn't change it. The pull force can be changed with a different clutch spring, or a different clutch actuator. Muller makes a ball& ramp assembly that reduces lever effort, by 40%, but also reduces clutch throw.
Cool thanks, I’ll look into it
 
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Old Feb 17, 2022 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by snerkler
Cool thanks, I’ll look into it

Just be aware, that as rigidthumper said, if you change the angle on the clutch cable ramp, you can reduce the effort, but it will also reduce the clutch throw... there's no free lunch, it's a balancing act between effort and throw...

A reduction in clutch cable effort, by changing the ramp angle, can make the clutch cable a little harder to adjust.... or maybe better said, makes it a little more "picky" about having the proper clutch adjustment...

 
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Old Feb 17, 2022 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by hattitude
Just be aware, that as rigidthumper said, if you change the angle on the clutch cable ramp, you can reduce the effort, but it will also reduce the clutch throw... there's no free lunch, it's a balancing act between effort and throw...

A reduction in clutch cable effort, by changing the ramp angle, can make the clutch cable a little harder to adjust.... or maybe better said, makes it a little more "picky" about having the proper clutch adjustment...
I'm ashamed to say I don't know what clutch throw is, maybe we call it something different on this side of the pond? I'm assuming it's how much/far the throw-out (release) bearing pushes into the release plate?
 
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Old Feb 17, 2022 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by snerkler
I'm ashamed to say I don't know what clutch throw is, maybe we call it something different on this side of the pond? I'm assuming it's how much/far the throw-out (release) bearing pushes into the release plate?

Correct....

The more narrow, or smaller, that distance, the more spot on you have to be with your clutch adjustment to ensure total clutch plate release with no clutch plate drag...
 
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Old Feb 17, 2022 | 01:28 PM
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Clutch throw =Pressure Plate movement- if it moves a lot, that creates good plate separation, so less drag when idling, at rest, in gear. You need about 75-80 thou (2mm) minimum travel.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2022 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by rigidthumper
Clutch throw =Pressure Plate movement- if it moves a lot, that creates good plate separation, so less drag when idling, at rest, in gear. You need about 75-80 thou (2mm) minimum travel.

Damn.... your explanation was much better than mine...


 
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Old Feb 17, 2022 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by hattitude
Correct....

The more narrow, or smaller, that distance, the more spot on you have to be with your clutch adjustment to ensure total clutch plate release with no clutch plate drag...
Originally Posted by rigidthumper
Clutch throw =Pressure Plate movement- if it moves a lot, that creates good plate separation, so less drag when idling, at rest, in gear. You need about 75-80 thou (2mm) minimum travel.
Thanks.
 
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