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Old Jan 20, 2021 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by hattitude
There have certainly been many complaints about the friction zone and lack of adjustability... the feel/release point spawned a new aftermarket industry for secondary clutch slaves...

What a great fortune for the MoCo... they can save money per unit, boost the bottom line, and yet be able to claim that they are being responsive to customer complaints & wants...!!

It's a WIN - WIN, for both the bottom line and the HD marketing machine...! Brilliant...!!
I don’t think the new CEO is a dummy.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2021 | 06:22 AM
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I guess i will see when I buy my trike eventually...never had a hydraulic clutch before other than a car. I guess it was in the 14 year Tri glides.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2021 | 08:35 AM
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I don’t think the new CEO is a dummy.

Well, "dummy" is such a subjective term....

I have no doubt he was selected because he knows how to play the corporate game.....
 
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Old Jan 20, 2021 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by stro1965
Motor officers are taught to use all fingers on the clutch and brake levers. I’m sure he’s done that since motor school. He’ll be fine.
I'm not a motor officer and I do as well. The amount of fingers has nothing to do with the release point or the tiny release/unrelease point of the crappy hydraulic clutch. You simply cannot control the clutch like you can with a cable and that is a fact!
 
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Old Jan 20, 2021 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by hattitude
There have certainly been many complaints about the friction zone and lack of adjustability... the feel/release point spawned a new aftermarket industry for secondary clutch slaves...

What a great fortune for the MoCo... they can save money per unit, boost the bottom line, and yet be able to claim that they are being responsive to customer complaints & wants...!!

It's a WIN - WIN, for both the bottom line and the HD marketing machine...! Brilliant...!!
For me, its a loss. I have had 7 Harleys with the Hydraulic clutch. I have rode them over 250,000 miles with out issue. I prefer the hydraulic clutch, especially on a built motor with over 140 torque

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I don’t think the new CEO is a dummy.
No he is not. Hired to make Harley money. Looks like he just had a huge cost savings. Another one by reducing the amount of bikes.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2021 | 12:36 PM
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Thats a sign of cheapness , reminds me of the Indians
 
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Old Jan 20, 2021 | 06:55 PM
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I respectfully disagree.

Originally Posted by tommy1727
I'm not a motor officer and I do as well. The amount of fingers has nothing to do with the release point or the tiny release/unrelease point of the crappy hydraulic clutch. You simply cannot control the clutch like you can with a cable and that is a fact!
 
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Old Jan 20, 2021 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by hattitude

There have certainly been many complaints about the friction zone and lack of adjustability... the feel/release point spawned a new aftermarket industry for secondary clutch slaves...

What a great fortune for the MoCo... they can save money per unit, boost the bottom line, and yet be able to claim that they are being responsive to customer complaints & wants...!!

It's a WIN - WIN, for both the bottom line and the HD marketing machine...! Brilliant...!!
Originally Posted by FLSTFI Dave

For me, its a loss. I have had 7 Harleys with the Hydraulic clutch. I have rode them over 250,000 miles with out issue. I prefer the hydraulic clutch, especially on a built motor with over 140 torque

Truth is... I'm not a fan of the HD corporate model that cares for nothing other than the "bottom line", and I think the HD marketing machine is rather pompous....

My comments, especially the "Brilliant" part, were intended to come across as sarcasm....

That being said, I have a hydraulic clutch on my heavily modified 2016 Bagger (135HP/151TQ). I had to add a Muller slave to get it to feel close to good with my clutch enhancements... now it's not really bad, nor really good.. I don't have any major problems with it, but it wouldn't bother me if this bike had a cable clutch

I've had cable clutches on all my other HD bikes, some heavily modified.... they weren't really bad, nor really good... I DID like the adjustability of a cable clutch... I didn't have any major problems with them, but it wouldn't bother me if they'd had a hydraulic clutch.

I have no doubt HD changed back to the cable clutch for purely "bottom line" reasons.... But I just don't see it as a major life changing event in the timeline of MoCo missteps... It certainly isn't the worst decision they've made in recent years, IMHO....

They managed to continue to sell bikes through the cam tensioner issues, compensator issues, excessive run out issues, M8 sumping issues, and M8 trans oil transfer issues to name a few... All of those should have been red flags to potential buyers, and yet they didn't make Harley, or its customers flinch....

I doubt the "cable clutch" will be more than a minor speed bump... but as always, I could be wrong...



 
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Old Aug 27, 2021 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jimglassford
Assuming the cable clutch does not have a new set of problems. Just because Harley had a cable clutch in the past does not mean the new one will be trouble free.
bought a 21 road glide limited with new clutch cable that has easy free play adjuster on it but it broke by adjuster and barley works. Harley does not have any replacements and was told today they are obsolete and on indefinite back order. Part is 37200439. Does anyone know of fix for it?????
 
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Old Aug 27, 2021 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by glideguy65
bought a 21 road glide limited with new clutch cable that has easy free play adjuster on it but it broke by adjuster and barley works. Harley does not have any replacements and was told today they are obsolete and on indefinite back order. Part is 37200439. Does anyone know of fix for it?????
So you say the 2021 upper clutch cable is obsolete! Did they replace it with another cable or are we going to be running without one?

So what broke and where? What does "barely works" mean? Either it works or doesn't. This might be a one and done poster but a half educated answer would be nice!

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