2021 cable clutch
Tourer
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From: Central California
I guess I do not understand how anyone not involved with the decision can make statements about it.
Maybe it was made to save some money...in a time where the company has been struggling, why is a decision to save money not celebrated? Maybe it was because they felt a cable offered more flexibility and ease of alteration by owners...if this is the case wouldn’t that be a reason to celebrate? Maybe they wanted to use more parts made in USA...reason to celebrate?
I have no idea why the decision was made...and because of that, I am not going to criticize anyone for it.
I personally am glad that HD is still around and still producing beautiful machines.
Maybe it was made to save some money...in a time where the company has been struggling, why is a decision to save money not celebrated? Maybe it was because they felt a cable offered more flexibility and ease of alteration by owners...if this is the case wouldn’t that be a reason to celebrate? Maybe they wanted to use more parts made in USA...reason to celebrate?
I have no idea why the decision was made...and because of that, I am not going to criticize anyone for it.
I personally am glad that HD is still around and still producing beautiful machines.
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From: SOON TO BE A SAFE AMERICA
The MoCo will up sale you on a Screamin' Eagle Clutch cable that cost more comes with a special logo and "better than" a normal clutch cable. But truth be told, it's just for the folks who drank the Harley Davidson "kool-Aid"!
Go Motor Company...
YB
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I remember back when the M8's first came out and many, including myself, were experiencing the dreaded "Transmission Fluid Transfer", and that there was a lot talk that it was ONLY those bikes with hydro clutches, none with cables. In fact, $tonecold even put together a parts listed need to swap back to cable from hydro. All we can see at this point is the cable on the outside, without being able to see if there were any significant changes to the inside on the clutch actuating system as well to possibly attempt to FIX the transfer issue, instead of putting a BANDAID on it with their brilliant Primary Case Vent. I like the hydro on my 14 SG, but I hated the Tranny Fluid Transfer enough to dump my M8 and go back to a TC. Like to see if the clutch system has changed as well........
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I'd like to personally thank all the M8 beta testers for sorting out this hydraulic actuated clutch issue. Harley Davidson, yesterday's technology at tomorrow's prices.
The only way to get quality out of a company is to starve them until get the message. With these new big inch motors they're putting out, that clutch pull is gonna be a treat, especially in a traffic jam.
The only way to get quality out of a company is to starve them until get the message. With these new big inch motors they're putting out, that clutch pull is gonna be a treat, especially in a traffic jam.
Road Captain
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From: IA
I'd like to personally thank all the M8 beta testers for sorting out this hydraulic actuated clutch issue. Harley Davidson, yesterday's technology at tomorrow's prices.
The only way to get quality out of a company is to starve them until get the message. With these new big inch motors they're putting out, that clutch pull is gonna be a treat, especially in a traffic jam.
The only way to get quality out of a company is to starve them until get the message. With these new big inch motors they're putting out, that clutch pull is gonna be a treat, especially in a traffic jam.
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From: SW Ohio
My real point is, everyone else who makes motorcycles have mastered the black art of hydro clutches, HD tried a bandaid and then just gave up.
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From: South Carolina
The only advantage to the hydraulic system is that it is easy to route a hose through tight spots, but the cable needs nice big radius turns.
Last edited by Dan89FLSTC; Jan 6, 2021 at 11:49 AM.
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Some or even most of their engineers are probably squared away people... I'm gonna bet it's the bean counters, backed by the Board of Directors, that are mucking up the show....
Not surprising in these hard times, as the MoCo tries to streamline to cut costs... that's what the Board of Directors cares about... profits..
I'm also not surprised they "just gave up" on the hydraulic clutch... look how long it took them to fix: cam tensioners, the compensator, the ABS system, M8 sumping, et al..... and some can convincingly argue those aren't all "fixed" to a proper standard...
The current decision makers didn't have the desire, or any motivation, to spend the time or money to fix it.... after all, it's just about the bottom line....
Just a guess on my part... I'm usually wrong..
