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Maybe the Motor Company was thinking this was better for their customers because
the majority of people change handlebars. Easier to install a cable compared to replacing
hydraulic brake lines and bleeding.
Maybe the Motor Company was thinking this was better for their customers because
the majority of people change handlebars. Easier to install a cable compared to replacing
hydraulic brake lines and bleeding.
What have I missed...???
How does switching the hydraulic clutch, to a cable clutch... have anything to do with the brakes systems...??
PS- IMHO...switching a brake line & bleeding it is a pretty easy job... certainly no harder than changing and adjusting a cable....
My guess, too many problems during the warranty period-Harley had to pay, not the customer. For those who like the hydraulic clutch, great. For me, to pay $20,000++ and NOT be able to set the engagement point the way I like it seems pretty lousy. Adding another $300 to the cost for an after market lever also adds insult to injury. Think of how many times the brake is used compared to 5 shifts almost every time you start from a stand still. If you keep a bike for a long time, sooner or later you will need to rebuild or replace the master and slave cylinders at what cost compared to a cable replacement. Newer isn't necessary better. A basic crow bar does an excellent job Almost all companies started with cable clutches, they work well and last a long time. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. What is the cost of a new throttle cable compared to a new twist grip sensor?
Lever was $150 and that was only because for 2017 and newer only one company was making them. On my 2016 a really great set that was sharp looking was $130.
The one for the 2017 had 8 positions however depending on grip type not all were usable in my case 1 was a bit to much.
My 2016 had 52,000 on it no issues. The 2017 had 40,400 the day it was totaled and it tugged a sidecar no issues with HYD clutch. Not saying one is better or worst.
Maybe I'm in the minority here but anyone buy a 21 and want to change out their cable clutch for hydo I'll swap even out. Yes the hydro is nice but I can't see the big difference in it. If made it a lighter pull I would stay with it but a good cable that is taken care of us as just as smooth.
Also will the cable effect the slipper type clutches????
so you think the decision on assembly line and 2 year maintenance agreement should be based on the experience of one person?
What does your answer have to do with what I posted?
ALL I know is that the Hydraulic clutch has been around the Harley scene since at least 2006 on CVO Motorcycles. And MOST FOLKS that had them, Loved them.
Then, the MoCo makes them available on standard models years later and recalls, replacements, and then no longer on new models!
I'm still leaning towards the Tranny Fluid Transfer with the new (2017+) M8's and it's new tranny/clutch set up when they first came out, and the touring models with hydro clutches started the transfer but the soft tails with cables didn't. Remember that? A few years into the game, all they did was vent the primary case to stop the pressure differential between the primary and the tranny. Problem masked, but never fixed. What was the big difference between the soft tails and touring that caused the issue to manifest in one but not the other? If they go cable with all of the bikes, problem is nonexistent going forward. Why couldn't the MoCo engineers solve it completely and save the hydros? Who the hell knows........
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