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2021 cable clutch
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until you try to run 150+ HP through it. You will have popeye hands in short order with the heavy springs!
Road Captain
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Nothing like "crying Uncle" then giving up and retreating back to old technology as opposed to fixing what problems do exist. Why is having a reliable hydraulic clutch that big of a deal? My other bike is a VTX 1800 with 92,000 miles and I have never had a problem with it's hydraulic clutch.
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When you build motors there is.
I sure agree.
Try pulling in a clutch cable for a clutch capable of holding 167 torque at say 5500 rpm. I do it regularly with my Hydraulic clutch.
I'm thinking my M8 with 163hp and 167 torque would be a pain to ride with cable clutch. I have just over 21,000 miles on the built motor.
Try pulling in a clutch cable for a clutch capable of holding 167 torque at say 5500 rpm. I do it regularly with my Hydraulic clutch.
I'm thinking my M8 with 163hp and 167 torque would be a pain to ride with cable clutch. I have just over 21,000 miles on the built motor.
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Back in the day, aftermarket and HD made a reduced effort Ramp/lever system for cable actuated clutches. Worked good too. Expect that or some version of it to make a come back.
Edit: And AIM has a hydraulic kit ready for those who want it. $599-815 depending on options and it includes their latest reduced effort Light force slave and a HD Master Cylinder apparently.
https://aim-tamachi.com/collections/...conversion-kit
All-in-all, not a big deal really. You have options.
Edit: And AIM has a hydraulic kit ready for those who want it. $599-815 depending on options and it includes their latest reduced effort Light force slave and a HD Master Cylinder apparently.
https://aim-tamachi.com/collections/...conversion-kit
All-in-all, not a big deal really. You have options.
Last edited by lp; Jan 13, 2021 at 08:40 AM.
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So take what I am about to tell you with a grain of salt or believe it.
Stopped by my local dealer, a good friend who works there explained his theory or what really happened. The hydraulic clutch first came stock on CVO motorcycles and no one to my knowledge had a problem with them.
In 2014 the hydraulic clutch started appearing on Touring bikes. This is when the problems started. At this time the MoCo took bids from several hydraulic clutch companies. (Bean Counters to the rescue) Of course in typical MoCo fashion, they choose a company that would design one that was cheaper then the original hydraulic clutch that first appeared on the CVO models. Problems started happening, recalls, warranty work, etc.
Then the MoCo with it's tail between their legs asked the original company who made the hydraulic clutch, PLEASE come back and do business with US. They basically said F%(K YOU!
And now you have a standard clutch cable. End of Story...
I did however checked out the new clutch cable and compared it to 2020 MY hydraulic clutch. It felt pretty much the same IF not a bit lighter in weight pulling it.
YB
Stopped by my local dealer, a good friend who works there explained his theory or what really happened. The hydraulic clutch first came stock on CVO motorcycles and no one to my knowledge had a problem with them.
In 2014 the hydraulic clutch started appearing on Touring bikes. This is when the problems started. At this time the MoCo took bids from several hydraulic clutch companies. (Bean Counters to the rescue) Of course in typical MoCo fashion, they choose a company that would design one that was cheaper then the original hydraulic clutch that first appeared on the CVO models. Problems started happening, recalls, warranty work, etc.
Then the MoCo with it's tail between their legs asked the original company who made the hydraulic clutch, PLEASE come back and do business with US. They basically said F%(K YOU!
And now you have a standard clutch cable. End of Story...
I did however checked out the new clutch cable and compared it to 2020 MY hydraulic clutch. It felt pretty much the same IF not a bit lighter in weight pulling it.
YB
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It's a nice story, but I don't believe it. Do you think in today's difficult economy a company would turn down a large and lucrative contract due to pride?
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NOPE!
I don't think we will ever know the real reason. But I still think it's about saving money.
YB