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Thanks for those pics Sanman. I was hoping to get a kit with everything I needed when I order. I live in a rural area so I don't know where I would get custom hoses made. It is something to keep in mind though.
Like a lot of 96" touring bikes mine is leaking at the bottom junction of the engine cases, so I don't want to add any more potential leaks to the mix. Thinking along those lines I like the fittings that the UltraCool comes with.
Thanks for the replies y'all. I have a good tune and no cat, but if I get stuck in traffic in a big city somewhere that don't help but so much. For example in Lynchburg or Raleigh the thing can cause roasted nuts easy. I used to have Rinehart true duals but the noise got annoying fast. I wound up getting a decatted stock headpipe and some take off mufflers from a 2016 RGS. I love the sound and the bike runs MUCH smoother and has more low end torque than with the Rineharts. In my opinion dealing with this extra heat is a worthwhile trade.
One thing y'all brought up that got me to thinking was the thermostat. Do any of the Jagg or UltraCool units have a thermostat? I ride year round and if I ever head up into the mountains it gets pretty cold up there. In the old days on my Shovelhead I'd just put a cover over the cooler but I'd like to avoid getting into that on this bike if possible.
Thanks again for the help.
There are two issues on a motorcycle regarding heat....
Engine temp and the heat felt by the rider.... while related, there is only so much you can do about the heat felt by the rider...
We are sitting right on top of the engine.... in my personal riding experience, that engine has grown from 1200 cc (74ci) to my current bagger with 2035cc (124ci)...
I have an OEM oil cooler, good tune, no cat, and a set of Jason's fans... the engine seems content, and while I do get warm at times (mostly slow traffic in hot weather) I'm good..
However...... Harley came out with a fan, called the Cool Flow Fan designed to reduce the felt heat from the engine. It mounts aft the rear cylinder, and blows heat from behind the engine down and aft. It keeps the heat from radiating up to the riders. Many who use this fan report it works well...
It was originally designed for the M8 bikes (#26800128), but the MoCo has since come out with one for '09-'16 touring bikes (#26800152)...
Definitely get the AN fittings with a Jags cooler. I chased little oil leaks for weeks on my Jags before I finally got them stopped. The hoses that came with the kit did not fit the push on fittings tight enough to not leak, even with the clamps cranked down. I bought better hoses and stopped the leaks.
Definitely get the AN fittings with a Jags cooler. I chased little oil leaks for weeks on my Jags before I finally got them stopped. The hoses that came with the kit did not fit the push on fittings tight enough to not leak, even with the clamps cranked down. I bought better hoses and stopped the leaks.
Thanks for that info dude. In looking at the Jagg and the UltraCool now I'm really starting to lean towards UltraCool. They seem to come with the proper fittings out of the box. To me Jagg knows they are shipping a defective kit if they offer "upgrade" parts after the purchase to fix problems.
Does anyone know of any real shortcomings with the UltraCool setup?
Thanks again for all the replies I greatly appreciate them.
The ultra cooler is a nice unit and the lines don't leak. The leaks of the past was the filter adapter used to leak, has been upgrade to better seal so I think that problem is resolved. I did have to change the temp sensor for the fans , I might of hit it. The fans seam to hold up good but I did put a mud flap on my fender.
Cons are heat is near regulater and now I can't slide something under filter to change it, can only slide up to adapter. These two cons are probably going to be with most coolers.
I do have a cover for the unit i made which is a pain and gets dirty so a thermostat would be nice. Think i would rather have thermostat than fans now as the fans come on once in a great while with the driving i do.
Head cooling fans are a most have for my new to me 02 and I don't even plan to get a oil cooler for it
I forgot, I also had to modify the mounts to get the Jags to bolt up! Good quality cooler, but the nit noid problems would preclude me from buying another.
Do you have an oil temp gauge that you are monitoring the temperature with?
I too have a 96 that I always was concerned about in stop & go traffic, especially here in Florida. I have an excellent tune, true duals, but recently got new gauges with an oil temp sensor, and was pleasantly surprised to fine the engine did not run anywhere near as hot as I was perceiving it to.
Yesterday we had temps on the mid-90s, and at cruising speed, it was reading about 220*. I once got in to stop and go and it went up to as high as 247*, but quickly returned as soon as I got through town and back up to speed.
just bringing it up , because as others have mentioned, you might be addressing the wrong issue (radiated heat).
Last edited by pingman68; May 2, 2021 at 07:04 AM.
Do you have an oil temp gauge that you are monitoring the temperature with?
I too have a 96 that I always was concerned about in stop & go traffic, especially here in Florida. I have an excellent tune, true duals, but recently got new gauges with an oil temp sensor, and was pleasantly surprised to fine the engine did not run anywhere near as hot as I was perceiving it to.
Yesterday we had temps on the mid-90s, and at cruising speed, it was reading about 220*. I once got in to stop and go and it went up to as high as 247*, but quickly returned as soon as I got through town and back up to speed.
just bringing it up , because as others have mentioned, you might be addressing the wrong issue (radiated heat).
Thanks for that info Pingman. No I don't have a temperature gauge but I can tell by the noises the top end of the motor makes in those situations it ain't happy. I realize there are many methods to cool these engines down but I guess I am thinking the oil cooler route first out of habit (I have a Lockhart cooler on my Shovelhead).
I'm pretty sure I am going to try the UltraCool (after a little more research) and MAYBE try out that fan that Harley makes that mounts behind the rear cylinder to aid in comfort. The two of those are going to be a heavy investment but I almost roasted yesterday due to stop and go traffic from a wreck and it was only 85 degrees at the time. The motor had gotten so hot the throttle response was getting sloppy by the time we were able to get up to speed.
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