2022 changes?
Tourer
Joined: Sep 2011
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From: Manchester, MI
That was a lot of rambling to just say "nothing new for twenty two".
Seasoned HDF Member
Joined: Sep 2008
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From: San Diego, CA
And his opinion about "nothing new for twenty two", is based on his new 2021 bike and something about Indian bikes.....
How's that definitive proof of the 2022 Harley bikes...????
Pretty sure it's all going to be guesses, conjecture, and "I know a guy" stuff until January...
Although.... there were some leaked pics of the M8 a few months before it was unveiled.... Anyone got 2022 pics....???
5th Gear
Joined: Oct 2021
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From: Las Vegas
I think the rambling was to make a point about Indian. I already made the mistake of going that route and am sharing my experiences so our fellow Harley brothers don't fall into the trap of drinking the Kool-Aid.
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From: St. Charles, MO
I just picked up my 2021 Road King Special 2 weeks ago today. It was built the week before. Harley added a $950 surcharge to the price. It appears they are out of or close to out of chips for the RDRS option, which I didn’t want. They changed the ECU in 2021 which is why DYNOJET just finally released the cable for the PV-3B. Probably have just enough left to put on the 2022 CVO bikes which came standard in 2021. Dealer orders as of November 1 will come in as 2022 models. I’m going to check their website to see what shows up. To address a couple of complaints that previous members posted, especially the pro-Indian ones: Harley is not going to an aluminum monoshock frame. Nor are they going to road race suspension. I’m installing RWD RS-1 SHOCKS to increase suspension from 2 to 4” with adjustable compression and a set of Legend cartridge fork internals. This should address the overly stiff suspension. As far as Indians great aluminum frames go, why did they come out mid year with the 2022 Chief line which is sold out everywhere I have seen and it has a steel frame with bottom tubes. After going from a 2013 CVO Road King to a 2018 Indian Springfield Dark Horse to a 2020 Indian Challenger Limited, I am back to Harley. I loved my older Harley but sold it for what I paid for it, after putting 35K trouble free miles on it because I wanted a blacked out bike and loved the suspension on the Indian. After a couple years and nothing that converted the motor to feel like or sound like a Harley, I was ready to get rid of it. Plus the electrical system started having glitches after about 15K miles and I sold it at 24K miles. I made the choice to test ride a new Indian Challenger just before they released the first production run at a training day when Indian brought the bike to the dealer to go over the bike and the service portion of the completely new model. I loved thee power, hated the quiet sound, loved the remote reservoir fox racing shock and upside down forks, so I quickly put some money down and bought one of the first off the line. I didn’t realize it came with a 110 mph speed limiter, which it hit every time I went to pass a truck. DYNOJET tried to hack into the system but gave up after a year. They ended up bench tuning my ECU which just went public last week, back in July. It went 140 mph but only added a couple hp and they added another 1000 rpm to my rev limiter. Basically Indians stage 1 tune with the right set of pipes with back pressure, they made it a little faster and smoother. But after about 24K miles on it, I just fell out of love with the motor. I have a 600cc Honda that puts out 110 rwhp and goes 160+ mph and is smooth as glass. Once I got on a stock new Harley 114 touring bike, I was sold. It took months to find one in black without RDRS (another feature to fail at some point), at MSRP. I took a beating on the Indian. They don’t hold their value unless you bought an old style bike 2 years old cheap and don’t put a lot of miles on a bike then sell. But Harleys with 50K miles, well kept up, can make a good everyday bike, with plenty of dealers in almost every town to service the bike out on the road. I waited 1 week for a set of spark plugs for my second Indian, and I fouled a plug with 14,000 miles on my first Indian in Sturgis, and other than the Indian dealer, the only place that had a set of plugs for the old engine was JP Cycle. And they had exactly 2 plugs in stock. With nothing leaked out about anything new and drastic, I don’t see any changes for 2022 other than color choices and maybe switching some of the existing parts. I also noticed my new Road King handled better in conrners than my last Indian event with the stock suspension. More predictable turning at 75-95 mph with just a little wallow, that was cures with more throttle. Harley did a great job on this bike. It’s not perfect but it will be my unique bike, not the same as all the Indians that all have the same options, same accessories, and not a lot of aftermarket stuff. I have other stuff coming too, but that will be my post after I report on the suspension.
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From: Out West
Well that's just great! I waited and finally blew my life-savings on a '21 and now they're going to come out with an aluminum framed, 150ci water-cooled V-twin 180hp/tq motor, 10-speed tranny, 1st Class front suspension, 1st Class rear suspension, wheel bearings that never need to be changed, a comfortable seat that doesn't require replacement, a stereo that works with any make of headset without spending additional money for the patch system, and everything else that's gooder!
I might as well eat a bowl of worms and hang myself
I might as well eat a bowl of worms and hang myself
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From: Edmonton, Alberta
Well that's just great! I waited and finally blew my life-savings on a '21 and now they're going to come out with an aluminum framed, 150ci water-cooled V-twin 180hp/tq motor, 10-speed tranny, 1st Class front suspension, 1st Class rear suspension, wheel bearings that never need to be changed, a comfortable seat that doesn't require replacement, a stereo that works with any make of headset without spending additional money for the patch system, and everything else that's gooder!
I might as well eat a bowl of worms and hang myself
I might as well eat a bowl of worms and hang myself
Yeah, but the sticker will say $70k!