Road King Won't Turn Over
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Not sure where to post updates... I just removed the starter end cap and pushed in on the solenoid and it fired right up. I know this bypasses the relay and the handlebar switch, but what else? Everything? I know this may not help diagnose the issue, but at least now I can ride! I ordered a solenoid cover with a button that will be here tomorrow. I appreciate the help, and any other ideas you all may have are still welcome!
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Not sure where to post updates... I just removed the starter end cap and pushed in on the solenoid and it fired right up. I know this bypasses the relay and the handlebar switch, but what else? Everything? I know this may not help diagnose the issue, but at least now I can ride! I ordered a solenoid cover with a button that will be here tomorrow. I appreciate the help, and any other ideas you all may have are still welcome!
You need to study the crank circuit on your bike which is actually pretty simple.
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Not sure where to post updates... I just removed the starter end cap and pushed in on the solenoid and it fired right up. I know this bypasses the relay and the handlebar switch, but what else? Everything? I know this may not help diagnose the issue, but at least now I can ride! I ordered a solenoid cover with a button that will be here tomorrow. I appreciate the help, and any other ideas you all may have are still welcome!
You need to study the crank circuit on your bike which is actually pretty simple.
Bar on and off is just another cut just like ignition switch for run circuit. I personally never use it.
The start button just hits power to small relay that cuts in power to the solenoid magnet that pulls in the large contact for power to the starter.
(What you manually pulled pushed in). Obliviously everything else is OK .
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My electrical diagnostic manual for 04 says the TSM only has turn signal control and bank angle. Bank angle kills fuel pump.
But you appear to be correct in the simplified wiring diagram. But if you look at it, it kills ignition power also..
Does a TSM have a 9 terminal. I'm not sure. I sorta think 9 is TSSM killing ignition and start for the security .
Way to deep for me.with out a few hours homework.
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Thank you. I need to get the resistor package. I didnt get one with the kit. Wasnt sure I would need it. I found a workaround. See my reply to my OP if you are interested.
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My electrical diagnostic manual for 04 says the TSM only has turn signal control and bank angle. Bank angle kills fuel pump.
But you appear to be correct in the simplified wiring diagram. But if you look at it, it kills ignition power also..
Does a TSM have a 9 terminal. I'm not sure. I sorta think 9 is TSSM killing ignition and start for the security .
Way to deep for me.with out a few hours homework.
But you appear to be correct in the simplified wiring diagram. But if you look at it, it kills ignition power also..
Does a TSM have a 9 terminal. I'm not sure. I sorta think 9 is TSSM killing ignition and start for the security .
Way to deep for me.with out a few hours homework.
Pin 9 is for the starter relay.. I have a 2005 diagram. Pin 10 will be used to cut the system relay but on a 2005, it's not hooked up.. 2004 shows the same thing. I suspect that they used the serial bus to control the system relay..
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I'd check the battery fuse. The small one.. With the errors you got, it might be blown. The only thing I can think of is that the new taillight /Turn signal shorted one of the turn signals temporally and when the TSSM tried to flash the signals with the ignition off it blew the fuse.. Battery fuse supplies power to ECM, Speedo, TSSM when the ignition is off.. I guess that it cleared if the turn signals flash 6 times on key on.. BTW check that new taillight turnsignals flash... IIRC Flashing 6 times means the TSSM got an error..
On the early TCs, the Tan/Green wire going to the starter relay from the TSSM. You can verify that it's held low when pressing the start button. If it goes hight, the TSSM is stopping the bike from starting.. It may be a blown fuse or bad TSSM.
While there may be a load issue with the turn signals, the issue should not stop the bike from starting.
On the early TCs, the Tan/Green wire going to the starter relay from the TSSM. You can verify that it's held low when pressing the start button. If it goes hight, the TSSM is stopping the bike from starting.. It may be a blown fuse or bad TSSM.
While there may be a load issue with the turn signals, the issue should not stop the bike from starting.
Thank you. Not sure if you saw my update, but I got the bike to start right up by manually pushing in the starter solenoid. I will check the small battery fuse, but wouldn't the bike starting up mean that it is OK?
Not sure what you mean by "TCs." Also not sure what you mean by "held low" and "goes high."