How long should a battery last?
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Instead of derailing threads you could take about motorcycles.
Batteries don't last as long as long in hot climates, and some people don't realize batteries and charging systems are better than they were 40 years ago.
Do you have any experience with motorcycles you can discuss, as it pertains to this topic?
Batteries don't last as long as long in hot climates, and some people don't realize batteries and charging systems are better than they were 40 years ago.
Do you have any experience with motorcycles you can discuss, as it pertains to this topic?
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Really? Atleast I am on topic. You should try talking about bikes and not your feelings. What do you disagree with? Use adult word to form a debate.
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Both the Battery Tender and the Battery Tender Plus are 4-step chargers meaning that they operate in 4 charge distinct modes: initialization, bulk charge, absorption charge, and float / maintenance charge. The legacy marketing literature and the operating instructions do not identify the original Battery Tender as having an initialization mode. Therefore there is a lot of old literature that refers to Battery Tender chargers as 3-step chargers. However the basic initialization functionality was present but there was no LED status indication; the Battery Tender simply would not allow output voltage to activate unless a battery was properly connected to the charger. The Battery Tender Plus does have an LED indication to indicate a faulty battery connection, which, with a little extra software and battery checks, completes the mechanization of ‘initialization’, the 4th charging step, even though time sequentially it is actually the 1st step.
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From the Battery Tender website:
Both the Battery Tender and the Battery Tender Plus are 4-step chargers meaning that they operate in 4 charge distinct modes: initialization, bulk charge, absorption charge, and float / maintenance charge. The legacy marketing literature and the operating instructions do not identify the original Battery Tender as having an initialization mode. Therefore there is a lot of old literature that refers to Battery Tender chargers as 3-step chargers. However the basic initialization functionality was present but there was no LED status indication; the Battery Tender simply would not allow output voltage to activate unless a battery was properly connected to the charger. The Battery Tender Plus does have an LED indication to indicate a faulty battery connection, which, with a little extra software and battery checks, completes the mechanization of ‘initialization’, the 4th charging step, even though time sequentially it is actually the 1st step.
Both the Battery Tender and the Battery Tender Plus are 4-step chargers meaning that they operate in 4 charge distinct modes: initialization, bulk charge, absorption charge, and float / maintenance charge. The legacy marketing literature and the operating instructions do not identify the original Battery Tender as having an initialization mode. Therefore there is a lot of old literature that refers to Battery Tender chargers as 3-step chargers. However the basic initialization functionality was present but there was no LED status indication; the Battery Tender simply would not allow output voltage to activate unless a battery was properly connected to the charger. The Battery Tender Plus does have an LED indication to indicate a faulty battery connection, which, with a little extra software and battery checks, completes the mechanization of ‘initialization’, the 4th charging step, even though time sequentially it is actually the 1st step.
At the very least, it shows how smart these new chargers are compared to the old ferroresonant charges...
Not to argue semantics, but the way that explanation is written, makes it sound like marketing speak to me..... Appears to be just a basic safety guard against an improper hook up.... not an actual step in the charging process... Especially since they always had that "step", just added an led light to indicate improper hook-up so you'll know why it's not charging, then decided to call it a 4th charging step..
But hey, it's their charger, they can label it any way they want....
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