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Old Oct 10, 2023 | 06:35 PM
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Got it, however the SE heads are alone worth more than what I’m paying for the engine. Cylinders and pistons are in great shape so should be a simple swap over, the entire engine was removed with under 10,000 original miles and has sat since.
Probably not. Early CVO SE heads are 1.9 / 1.6 with domed chambers not bathtub.

You can't swap the crank even tho the stroke is the same. The left side shaft has different splines.

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Motor won't swap either.

CVO heads to get are the 110 heads if building a 117 or larger.
 

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Old Oct 10, 2023 | 06:47 PM
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You can swap over all the parts except the crank/flywheel and cases and pistons. Harley went to the "dick head" rods in 07 flywheel so 03 pistons may not work. Primary assemblies and left side of flywheel are different between 03 and 07 and do not interchange
Also going to timkin bearing is not necessary or even recommended much anymore. Use SE lefty roller bearings. Use your 07 crank unless run-out is bad. If your 07 crank is bad I would recommend S&S crank

 
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Old Oct 10, 2023 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Headflow
Probably not. Early CVO SE heads are 1.9 / 1.6 with domed chambers not bathtub.
Didn't know that about the early CVO heads
 
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Old Oct 10, 2023 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Headflow
Probably not. Early CVO SE heads are 1.9 / 1.6 with domed chambers not bathtub.

You can't swap the crank even tho the stroke is the same. The left side shaft has different splines.

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Motor won't swap either.

CVO heads to get are the 110 heads if building a 117 or larger.
Are all the SE103 heads not worth swapping in? Which year/model SE heads are worth going with on my 07 without a ton of mods??
 
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Old Oct 10, 2023 | 08:12 PM
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So he gains nothing by splitting the cases and swapping cranks........
 
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Old Oct 10, 2023 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by matt_eglide
Are all the SE103 heads not worth swapping in? Which year/model SE heads are worth going with on my 07 without a ton of mods??
There may be some but I doubt it..

None unless you plan on building a bigger motor than 103. The 07 heads aren't too bad. You want simple, bore the cylinders and add a cam..
 
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Old Oct 10, 2023 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Headflow
There may be some but I doubt it..

None unless you plan on building a bigger motor than 103. The 07 heads aren't too bad. You want simple, bore the cylinders and add a cam..
Got it…SE-255 cams already installed. Was just looking for an easy bolt on bump in displacement with already ported/upgraded heads but it does seem like the SE103 heads are somewhat inferior to what I already have on my stock 07.

I may try and find a set of stock heads to play around with porting and polishing, stiffer valve springs and also adding a high flow intake first…then bump up the displacement at a later date.

Thx for the help and advice!
 
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Old Oct 10, 2023 | 09:38 PM
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Will the 255s even make use of the screaming eagle heads or any headwork? Pretty short cam...low end torque cam but definitely runs out of gas on top. Plus too much compression will make it tough to tune.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2023 | 10:03 PM
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Will the 255s even make use of the screaming eagle heads or any headwork? Pretty short cam...low end torque cam but definitely runs out of gas on top. Plus too much compression will make it tough to tune.
They (255’s) really woke up my 96, I didn’t do adj pushrods yet, just the cams and inner cam bearings while I had it apart replacing the tensioners.

Wanted to wait til I could find a set of heads to port and polish myself or better yet a set of SE heads that were already ported and bolt them on. Sounds like I’ll have better luck building a set of stock heads with some stiffer springs and a port and polish job along with a bigger intake and a really good tune.

Was hoping I could eek out 100ish HP and torque without spending a ton. Not a bad setup for well less than $1K currently.

May keep an eye out for a 110 that’ll bolt in later on. But for now I’m happy with messing around with some heads and an intake and see where that gets me.
 
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Originally Posted by matt_eglide
Got it…SE-255 cams already installed. Was just looking for an easy bolt on bump in displacement with already ported/upgraded heads but it does seem like the SE103 heads are somewhat inferior to what I already have on my stock 07.

I may try and find a set of stock heads to play around with porting and polishing, stiffer valve springs and also adding a high flow intake first…then bump up the displacement at a later date.

Thx for the help and advice!
Have a buddy that bought a set of those heads, a take off 103 bore kit and 255 cams. He used CVO mufflers. He installed them in a 07 Ultra Classic. The bike was barely faster than a stock. Trying those heads on a 96 would be a waste. The problem is that they are 92 ccs and with flat tops the CR would be about 8.8 to 1.. You are better off with the stock heads that give you about 9.2-.3 to 1.. They might work OK if you bored to 103 and used higher compression special pistons that fit the chambers but at that point you are better off the originals with a street port and less money spent.

Those heads do flow better, about 240 at 28 where stock late heads are about 220. With a little work they'll get 250 but the combustion chamber has no squish so you need to use custom pistons and cut the head to get some plus bring the compression up.
 
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