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Old Oct 10, 2023 | 10:58 PM
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Have a buddy that bought a set of those heads, a take off 103 bore kit and 255 cams. He used CVO mufflers. He installed them in a 07 Ultra Classic. The bike was barely faster than a stock. Trying those heads on a 96 would be a waste. The problem is that they are 92 ccs and with flat tops the CR would be about 8.8 to 1.. You are better off with the stock heads that give you about 9.2-.3 to 1.. They might work OK if you bored to 103 and used higher compression special pistons that fit the chambers but at that point you are better off the originals with a street port and less money spent.

Those heads do flow better, about 240 at 28 where stock late heads are about 220. With a little work they'll get 250 but the combustion chamber has no squish so you need to use custom pistons and cut the head to get some plus bring the compression up.
Got it, makes sense. Thanks for the advice, will be passing on the engine after reading thru all this. Good stuff. Hope this helps someone else out too!
 
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Old Oct 11, 2023 | 12:37 PM
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The 255 cam is considered an emissions that Harley used to avoid having to use a catalytic converter. It also causes the engine to generate excessive heat. Hillside machine shaved my SE 110 heads to lower combustion chamber volume to 88 CC and cleaned the valve bowls ( pockets). They supplied Woods camshaft(s) for midrange torque. I’ll report back when I finish the installation.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2023 | 04:10 PM
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The 255 cam is considered an emissions that Harley used to avoid having to use a catalytic converter. It also causes the engine to generate excessive heat. Hillside machine shaved my SE 110 heads to lower combustion chamber volume to 88 CC and cleaned the valve bowls ( pockets). They supplied Woods camshaft(s) for midrange torque. I’ll report back when I finish the installation.
im currently tuning with a PCV but plan to upgrade to a Power Vision soon to help richen up the system; how can/will adjustable pushrods help with the heat by allowing more air/fuel in the engine?
 
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Old Oct 11, 2023 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by matt_eglide

im currently tuning with a PCV but plan to upgrade to a Power Vision soon to help richen up the system; how can/will adjustable pushrods help with the heat by allowing more air/fuel in the engine?

They can't and they won't affect the way the engine actually runs.....

They are a convenient way to change out cams without going through the rocker boxes.... and they can vary the preload to the lifters, which is good if you need to chase a "ticking" sound from the valve train...

 
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Late to the party. The cams that came with that CVO were SE253's. The heads did not have ACRS so If that engine has 255's it's because somebody put them in after the fact. And if you run 255's in a 103 without compression releases, you're looking at a lot of hot, start issues, starter, kickback, etc.

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Old Oct 12, 2023 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by roussfam
Late to the party. The cams that came with that CVO were SE253's. The heads did not have ACRS so If that engine has 255's it's because somebody put them in after the fact. And if you run 255's in a 103 without compression releases, you're looking at a lot of hot, start issues, starter, kickback, etc.

Jim
Great advice, thank you. The SE255’s are in my current 96” engine, the 104 I was looking at does have rhe SE253 cams in it.

I’ve decided to pass on this engine for a variety of reasons, many of which are above and thank you all for the help and insight!
 
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Old Oct 12, 2023 | 11:40 AM
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I should have added my engine is the SE 110. I was told the 255 cam came with it.
 
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I should have added my engine is the SE 110. I was told the 255 cam came with it.
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Originally Posted by roussfam
Late to the party. The cams that came with that CVO were SE253's. The heads did not have ACRS so If that engine has 255's it's because somebody put them in after the fact. And if you run 255's in a 103 without compression releases, you're looking at a lot of hot, start issues, starter, kickback, etc.

Jim
This I have seen - a friend of mine built up a 103 with the 255s and no compression releases and he often needs to 'let it cool' before he can restart - or he leaves it running. I bring my battery booster pack with me when we ride and know that we may be making a few stops - otherwise his battery starts to chug trying to spin the motor when hot
 
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I thought to make the 88 a 103 you had to bore the cases, otherwise you could only go up to 95", is that right?
 
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