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Old Nov 14, 2023 | 11:36 AM
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Default Starter circuit wiring help needed

2001 Road King Classic

She starts if I bypass the starter relay with a jumper.
(yes I know and I have a solenoid push button cover on the way)
I’ve swapped the starter relay with the brake light switch and verified it’s working.

The Run/Off switch is working (fuel pump tells me so)
I metered the push button start switch at the Deutsch connector under the nacelle and it shorts between the Black/red and grey wire when pushed.

I have continuity on the black/red from the Deutsch connector to the relay and from the grey at the connector to one side of the 15amp ignition fuse.

This is where I’m lost… where does the other side of the 15 amp ignition fuse show up? The grey of the ignition switch plug ?

Any suggestions from here?


 
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Old Nov 14, 2023 | 12:53 PM
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~didn't say "get a service manual"~
Good man.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2023 | 01:18 PM
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Ha ha, I’ve got a service manual!
I did check the ignition switch, I have 12.6v on all 3 terminals when the switch is on.

What does the turn signal/security module have to do with the starter circuit ?
It’s where the other side of the ignition fuse goes!


 
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Old Nov 14, 2023 | 01:28 PM
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Pin 2 at the ts/s module connector (grey from ignition fuse) has 12.4v when ignition switch is turned on… also when ignition switch is turned on the run/stop switch doesn’t affect the 12v

I’m at a loss what to check next
 

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Check the TN/GN it should provide ground through the TSM/TSSM for the start relay.









 
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Check the TN/GN it should provide ground through the TSM/TSSM for the start relay.
I get 12 ohms resistance with the ignition switch off, 30 ohms w/ switch on. No change when I press the start switch
 
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With everything connected can you find a way to ground the TN/GN wire and see if the starter button works?
 
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Remove the starter relay, read voltage at the connector where pin 86 goes when the start button is pressed (Black/Red wire).

What is the voltage?

This is the diagram for the starting circuit:

Starting Circuit
 

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Originally Posted by Vernal
With everything connected can you find a way to ground the TN/GN wire and see if the starter button works?
I was able to get a ground to the TN/GN with everything connected… nothing when pressing the start button

[QUOTE=Dan89FLSTC;21453952]Remove the starter relay, read voltage at the connector where pin 86 goes when the start button is pressed (Black/Red wire).

What is the voltage?

This is the diagram for the starting circuit:

Starting Circuit[/QUOTE

I get no voltage on pin 86
 
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