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Old Jan 5, 2024 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Goose_NC
Today's vehicles have unnecessary computer control that limit user upgrades. One cannot simply install a new sound system because the "radio" is not a control monitor for the vehicle.
I have not touched a stereo in an auto since the 70s.

I been saying for years I should shove a cheap *** stereo in 2007 FLH for $20 with bluetooth
 
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Most of the time if an ECM fails it is self infected. Same with BCM.
If you think the 2010 is something. Check out a 2020 plus with RDRS.
I got back and forth from my 1996 EVO to the 2020 RGL. Like both of them. But no way on this earth you can compare the two.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2024 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by smitty901
Most of the time if an ECM fails it is self infected. Same with BCM.
If you think the 2010 is something. Check out a 2020 plus with RDRS.
I got back and forth from my 1996 EVO to the 2020 RGL. Like both of them. But no way on this earth you can compare the two.
Not one curse word about Harley Davidson from smitty in a post!! Stop the presses!!!

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Old Jan 5, 2024 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by smitty901
M Check out a 2020 plus with RDRS.

But no way on this earth you can compare the two.
When I went from 01 to 07, there were some nice upgrades. 2 tripomoters, better kickstand, already extended the brake pedal on my 01. Nice improvements. But jump ahead 15 years and it is more night day. Some might be my 01 was not high mileage bike when I made the jump. I am sure when I jump to M8s it will be same. But now I do have infotainment center and bluetooth, so I am not sure it will such a dramatic change. But maybe the ride enhancements will be.

It does seem heavier or more imbalanced. My concern is all these extra crap is making them heavier. Add 20 things a pound each and you got extra 20 pounds. I still enjoy my 2007, and I am dumping money in it. But they are all different bikes. But you have to be honest the ride improvement in newer bikes/not worn out. I don't run like I did 20 years ago either. Old guys have trouble admitting that.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2024 | 08:16 AM
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If my 2023 Tucson suddenly stops running on the road I am toast. Unless its a flat tire I am going on the hook of a wrecker.
Years ago I was comfortable working under the hood of my V-8 muscle cars.......I could fix them.

If I were riding one of the newer bikes with fuel injection and the maze of electronics I would never travel very far from help.
I envy you guys riding the newer bikes because most of you have the knowledge and ability to diagnose and fix them.

 
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Old Jan 5, 2024 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Wagondog
Years ago I was comfortable working under the hood of my V-8 muscle cars...
Years ago, getting UNDER my cars was a lot more comfortable too!

I don't think anyone is trying to change anyone's mind here. Run whatcha want. Some like carbs, some like EFI, some are comfortable either way. Bikes were delivered one way or the other, you do you. You're the only one who can!
 
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Old Jan 5, 2024 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Rustyg500
My 2002 Road King has 300,000 miles on it. Same ECM as when I picked it up new at the dealer November 2002 day after thanksgiving.
Wow!!!
300k.......REALLY!!!
I've never heard of a bike with that kind of mileage!
Have those been mostly trouble free miles?
 
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Old Jan 5, 2024 | 08:50 AM
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Years ago, getting UNDER my cars was a lot more comfortable too!




Damn, ain't that the truth...
 
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Originally Posted by Rustyg500
My 2002 Road King has 300,000 miles on it. Same ECM as when I picked it up new at the dealer November 2002 day after thanksgiving.
I'd like to see the list of parts replaced. How much of the original drive train is still used?

The only other person I knew who had a documented 500,000 miles on a ElectraGlide had the engine replaced because of cam and lifters. The tranny and primary cases were the only drive train items not replaced. But he did have 150,000 on the original engine before any issues occurred.
 

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Originally Posted by Tcrafty
You ARE correct! They are awesome bikes.


Oh yeah. Like them for what they are, not what they aren't. You'll be much happier.
Oh I do!!
And that's a great philosophy to have through life too!
 
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