I had no idea!!
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It started before him, I'd guess at least 15 years ago... probably longer IIRC...
It started with the requiring certain square footage proportions for new dealerships, then the pressure started on the old Mom & Pop dealers to upgrade. It eventually turned into upgrade or lose your franchise type pressure and many of the Mom & Pops just decided to retire rather than make the HUGE reinvestment....
The large dealership conglomerates were waiting in the wings to pick up the "retiring" franchise owners...
It started with the requiring certain square footage proportions for new dealerships, then the pressure started on the old Mom & Pop dealers to upgrade. It eventually turned into upgrade or lose your franchise type pressure and many of the Mom & Pops just decided to retire rather than make the HUGE reinvestment....
The large dealership conglomerates were waiting in the wings to pick up the "retiring" franchise owners...
They're still.promoting the brand and brining in money.
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It started before him, I'd guess at least 15 years ago... probably longer IIRC...
It started with the requiring certain square footage proportions for new dealerships, then the pressure started on the old Mom & Pop dealers to upgrade. It eventually turned into upgrade or lose your franchise type pressure and many of the Mom & Pops just decided to retire rather than make the HUGE reinvestment....
The large dealership conglomerates were waiting in the wings to pick up the "retiring" franchise owners...
It started with the requiring certain square footage proportions for new dealerships, then the pressure started on the old Mom & Pop dealers to upgrade. It eventually turned into upgrade or lose your franchise type pressure and many of the Mom & Pops just decided to retire rather than make the HUGE reinvestment....
The large dealership conglomerates were waiting in the wings to pick up the "retiring" franchise owners...
HAHA......I'm not at all worried about the motor......or the bike in general.
.I was just curious what a stock motor would run.
The bike is in great shape!
I might seem overly concerned but Im really not at all.
I've just never had a bike with all this "new"stuff on it so I'm asking as many questions about everything as I can just to educate myself.
.I was just curious what a stock motor would run.
The bike is in great shape!
I might seem overly concerned but Im really not at all.
I've just never had a bike with all this "new"stuff on it so I'm asking as many questions about everything as I can just to educate myself.
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I kinda figured around that.
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They targeted small family owned dealers. It most often stared when a group that owned more than one dealership wanted sales the smaller dealership had.
In our case we had a dealer ship that was here 62 years Owner grew up on the dealership shop floor as did his children.
The Sons his wife all worked in the dealership not just hung around. They all rode One son Danny was the 2020 Hooligan national grand champion. And he built that bike in the dealership shop.
They made their living on service and they knew it. People in the shop worked there 20 years and more .Never heard can't from them. The sign at their dealership said we will work on any Harley 1939 and up. Also made it known if it was older they would try to help.
The knew the bikes inside and out. Many of us purchased new bikes right at the parts counter. And the hardest part was picking the color. I purchased a new one from the ER over the phone.
Yes HD targeted and force small honest dealer to shut down. More coming.
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OR.......
You could get an S&S 143" long block for only $11,524.95.....
(don't mind me, I have the mod sickness....)
https://www.sscycle.com/products/t14...wrinkle-black/
OR.......
You could get an S&S 143" long block for only $11,524.95.....
(don't mind me, I have the mod sickness....)
https://www.sscycle.com/products/t14...wrinkle-black/
You could get an S&S 143" long block for only $11,524.95.....
(don't mind me, I have the mod sickness....)
https://www.sscycle.com/products/t14...wrinkle-black/
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Been going on awhile. In 2020 CEO steped up the plan to shut down 200 dealers in US.
They targeted small family owned dealers. It most often stared when a group that owned more than one dealership wanted sales the smaller dealership had.
In our case we had a dealer ship that was here 62 years Owner grew up on the dealership shop floor as did his children.
The Sons his wife all worked in the dealership not just hung around. They all rode One son Danny was the 2020 Hooligan national grand champion. And he built that bike in the dealership shop.
They made their living on service and they knew it. People in the shop worked there 20 years and more .Never heard can't from them. The sign at their dealership said we will work on any Harley 1939 and up. Also made it known if it was older they would try to help.
The knew the bikes inside and out. Many of us purchased new bikes right at the parts counter. And the hardest part was picking the color. I purchased a new one from the ER over the phone.
Yes HD targeted and force small honest dealer to shut down. More coming.
They targeted small family owned dealers. It most often stared when a group that owned more than one dealership wanted sales the smaller dealership had.
In our case we had a dealer ship that was here 62 years Owner grew up on the dealership shop floor as did his children.
The Sons his wife all worked in the dealership not just hung around. They all rode One son Danny was the 2020 Hooligan national grand champion. And he built that bike in the dealership shop.
They made their living on service and they knew it. People in the shop worked there 20 years and more .Never heard can't from them. The sign at their dealership said we will work on any Harley 1939 and up. Also made it known if it was older they would try to help.
The knew the bikes inside and out. Many of us purchased new bikes right at the parts counter. And the hardest part was picking the color. I purchased a new one from the ER over the phone.
Yes HD targeted and force small honest dealer to shut down. More coming.
You'd never see a sign like this today..........
"We will.work on any Harley 1939 and up"!!!
I think they only take in bikes 10 yrs back...not sure.e will work on any Harley 1939 and up.
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