Need final Cam choice help!
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Need final Cam choice help!
I have a 2011 Road King with a stock 96". Having a hard time pulling the trigger on one set of cams over another. So I'm inbetween Andrew's 48H and the Feuling 543. While I'm in there camplate, oil pump, lifters and tensioners are being done as well. I ride fairly conservative with some fun sprinkled in there. Any recommendations would be welcomed and appreciated.
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I have a 2011 Road King with a stock 96". Having a hard time pulling the trigger on one set of cams over another. So I'm inbetween Andrew's 48H and the Feuling 543. While I'm in there camplate, oil pump, lifters and tensioners are being done as well. I ride fairly conservative with some fun sprinkled in there.
Any recommendations would be welcomed and appreciated.
If you are not pushing 80K+ miles, I see no reason to replace the cam plate, tensioners, or oil pump.. even then, I would inspect them for wear before replacing them. The '07+ cam plate, oil pump, and tensioners should make it to 100K without an issue on a properly maintained engine.
Anytime I replace the cam, I go with new lifters. Not everyone feels the need to do that... so in your case, I would be sure to get rid of the crappy "C" lifters if you have them (you MAY still have the "B" lifters)..
The crappy "C" lifters were first introduced into production in June 2011. All the "B" lifters were gone by 8/2011. So if your bike was manufactured before June, your lifters are the good ones. After August 2011, you have the crappy "C" lifters. In between June & August, you need to be able to spot the difference... any doubt, replace them..
I also would replace the OEM INA Brand caged inner cam bearings to the better Koyo captive needle bearings. For 2011, you will ned the Kyo B-168 inner cam bearings. The bearings are cheap, but you will need a tool to replace them.
Good luck with your cam change..
PS- I have nothing against Fueling cams, Fueling makes good products. However, I have no experience with Fueling cams. I do know the Andrews 48 cam does well in several applications, and has a pretty big following with people who share your riding style...... So I would vote for the Andrews 48 cam.
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So it has around 27k on it. I had a 48H in my 103 fat Bob and it ran great, so Im familiar with that cam. Just trying to get the most out of the 96. The Indy that I was asking about doing it, said to upgrade all that stuff while we were in there.
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You can upgrade the cam plate, oil pump and tensioners if you want to... but it is absolutely not necessary on a 2011 96" Twin Cam with 27K miles. The OEM versions will be more than adequate for a bolt-in cam modification. If they have enough wear to need replacing, you have a bigger issue you need to address... they should not need to be replaced at that mileage.
I would much rather spend that money on new lifters and inner cam bearings.
Again, IMHO, the cam plate, tensioner, oil pump changes are a "want to do" not a "need to do"....
I upgraded the cam plate and oil pump, which was absolutely not necessary, when I upgraded the spring cam tensioners on my 2003 88" Twin Cam. I even went to a big bore (95") with head work at that time, but I still did not NEED a new cam plate or oil pump for that mod.
What can I say, I just really wanted to try the pretty blue one....
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I'm in the same camp as hattitude. I have no experience with the 543, but have installed several sets of the 48's. Based on Feulings description and cam specs, it's a better choice if you might bump the compression.
I agree that the cam plate and pump are fine. New tensioner pads, good lifters and B-168 style cam bearings would finish the job. If you plan to reuse the stock pushrods, they are ok to use. What I like to do is order custom length from Smith Brothers at +0.020 in length, It helps keep the lifter plunger in a more favorable position. These are not all that expensive from Smith Brothers, just under $60 a set as I recall. The Andrews 48's have a little smaller base circle as compared to stock HD cams, 0.010" smaller as I recall. So a slightly longer pushrod is helpful.
HD also sells extended length pushrods, they have +0.030 but are really proud of them at $120 a set.
I agree that the cam plate and pump are fine. New tensioner pads, good lifters and B-168 style cam bearings would finish the job. If you plan to reuse the stock pushrods, they are ok to use. What I like to do is order custom length from Smith Brothers at +0.020 in length, It helps keep the lifter plunger in a more favorable position. These are not all that expensive from Smith Brothers, just under $60 a set as I recall. The Andrews 48's have a little smaller base circle as compared to stock HD cams, 0.010" smaller as I recall. So a slightly longer pushrod is helpful.
HD also sells extended length pushrods, they have +0.030 but are really proud of them at $120 a set.
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Looks like I might be grabbing a Andrews 48H from Fuel Moto with their pushrod and lifter full install it. Comes with the new inner bearing, their adjustable pushrods and Woods lifters. Also throw in some Feuling tensioners as well. Thanks fellas
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