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Codes??
I'm still getting used to the finer points of a computerized bike.
So......regarding codes.
My 2010 RK is running flawlessly.
When something malfunctions the corresponding code should appear on my dash.
How do I decipher that code?
I have the Clymer manual.
I haven't looked yet .....but are all the code descriptions in there?
If not, where do I look?
Tx!
So......regarding codes.
My 2010 RK is running flawlessly.
When something malfunctions the corresponding code should appear on my dash.
How do I decipher that code?
I have the Clymer manual.
I haven't looked yet .....but are all the code descriptions in there?
If not, where do I look?
Tx!
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Clymer manual is mostly good for starting fires.
Codes list is easy to find FM and others have many of them posted. Tuners like PV give a brief description of some codes Some codes are pretty generic and cover many years others are added over time.
The code will not appear on it's own you have to bring it up. The Red security light and or Check engine light indicates a code.
Some codes are current others maybe historic.
Freak codes that come up will go historic and a few starts but may linger in history with no ill effects.
Historic code can be an older one just near cleared or a freak one that popped up. Example cold morning bike did not start right way can some time trigger a meaningless code or two.
Quick example of a triggered historic code. Spin rear tire with front barely moving. A VSS code will post. Vehicle speed sensor. Because front and read tire speeds do not match. The code will go historic. However it could also trigger an ABS code also that to would go historic once you quit fouling around on Golf course wet grass.
Codes list is easy to find FM and others have many of them posted. Tuners like PV give a brief description of some codes Some codes are pretty generic and cover many years others are added over time.
The code will not appear on it's own you have to bring it up. The Red security light and or Check engine light indicates a code.
Some codes are current others maybe historic.
Freak codes that come up will go historic and a few starts but may linger in history with no ill effects.
Historic code can be an older one just near cleared or a freak one that popped up. Example cold morning bike did not start right way can some time trigger a meaningless code or two.
Quick example of a triggered historic code. Spin rear tire with front barely moving. A VSS code will post. Vehicle speed sensor. Because front and read tire speeds do not match. The code will go historic. However it could also trigger an ABS code also that to would go historic once you quit fouling around on Golf course wet grass.
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Clymer manual is mostly good for starting fires.
Codes list is easy to find FM and others have many of them posted. Tuners like PV give a brief description of some codes Some codes are pretty generic and cover many years others are added over time.
The code will not appear on it's own you have to bring it up. The Red security light and or Check engine light indicates a code.
Some codes are current others maybe historic.
Freak codes that come up will go historic and a few starts but may linger in history with no ill effects.
Historic code can be an older one just near cleared or a freak one that popped up. Example cold morning bike did not start right way can some time trigger a meaningless code or two.
Quick example of a triggered historic code. Spin rear tire with front barely moving. A VSS code will post. Vehicle speed sensor. Because front and read tire speeds do not match. The code will go historic. However it could also trigger an ABS code also that to would go historic once you quit fouling around on Golf course wet grass.
Codes list is easy to find FM and others have many of them posted. Tuners like PV give a brief description of some codes Some codes are pretty generic and cover many years others are added over time.
The code will not appear on it's own you have to bring it up. The Red security light and or Check engine light indicates a code.
Some codes are current others maybe historic.
Freak codes that come up will go historic and a few starts but may linger in history with no ill effects.
Historic code can be an older one just near cleared or a freak one that popped up. Example cold morning bike did not start right way can some time trigger a meaningless code or two.
Quick example of a triggered historic code. Spin rear tire with front barely moving. A VSS code will post. Vehicle speed sensor. Because front and read tire speeds do not match. The code will go historic. However it could also trigger an ABS code also that to would go historic once you quit fouling around on Golf course wet grass.
Is the Clymer really that bad?
Im.not a "mechanic" so I wont be using it to tear down my motor, but it did help in replacing my fuel pump and other assorted minor jobs.
I'll take a look at the HD one.
As for codes.......if I DONT see check engine is it safe to assume I'm good?
And if I DO see it, acceas the code by pushing side button on dash?
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Tx smitty!
Is the Clymer really that bad?
Im.not a "mechanic" so I wont be using it to tear down my motor, but it did help in replacing my fuel pump and other assorted minor jobs.
I'll take a look at the HD one.
As for codes.......if I DONT see check engine is it safe to assume I'm good?
And if I DO see it, acceas the code by pushing side button on dash?
I don't like or trust the Clymer manual, or any manual other than an HD Factory Service manual. The factory manuals are not cheap, but I have one for each bike year/model I own. I won't work on my bike without one.
The ECM will warn of both Historic codes and Current codes in a different way, but to answer your question, you will have a check engine light to warn of a code. Not every issue throws a code. If you have a loose battery cable or other electrical glitch, you can get random false codes. However, checking for codes is always a good place to start when diagnosing an issue.
Here is a tutorial along with the various diagnostic codes.
https://www.fuelmotousa.com/p-29661-...2FFLT%20MODELS
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If you want a Harley FSM just ask the dealer to get it.
If you want a ripped off pdf then do a google search.
Adding to what hattitude has written the lamp used for the security system is used to point out electrical faults. If a bulb blows for instance on a CAN bus bike that lamp will be on or say the system relay fails on a non CAN bike and not the engine lamp.
If you want a ripped off pdf then do a google search.
Adding to what hattitude has written the lamp used for the security system is used to point out electrical faults. If a bulb blows for instance on a CAN bus bike that lamp will be on or say the system relay fails on a non CAN bike and not the engine lamp.
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Yes the Clymer is that bad. I am good with many aftermarket parts and supplies but service manuals HD only. Had one with every bike. And when trade off the book with with it. And the dealership I did business with always made sure new owner got it.
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The HD Factory Service Manual for 2010 Touring bikes is part #99483-10.
You can get it new, from a dealer for $149.95.
You can buy both new & used on eBay. Be aware, there are some on eBay selling both used and new HD Factory manuals for more than you can get them new...
here's one used on for sale now:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/20473491934...BoCnNQQAvD_BwE
I always get all three manuals for any HD bike I buy, as I do all my own service and repairs..
I get a Factory Service Manual, Parts Catalog (which is available now online), and the Electrical Diagnostic Manual. I use all three at one time or another. The service manual gets used the most. The parts catalog helps with part numbers and I use the exploded diagrams as I am a visual learner. The electrical manual gets used the least, but is worth its weight in gold when needed.
I tend to keep my bikes for a long time. The investment is worth it for me. I then keep the manuals as I sell the bikes to have reference material. Working on my bikes, and sometimes for close friends, is my retirement hobby....
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