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Old Jun 26, 2024 | 07:28 AM
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2017 Street glide almost 30k miles. Haven't had any issues with her thus far. Fairly stock with the accepting of slip ons and air cleaner. Last night I started getting a rattling sound from what sounded like near the primary. It was hard to pinpoint and didn't want to mess around too much with wife on the back. The issue only seems to be in 1st gear in low rpms and engine braking. I'm also getting a pulse in the clutch lever. Any suggestions ?
 
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Old Jun 26, 2024 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Maniak31
20 Any suggestions ?
Pull the primary cover and inspect...
 
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Old Jun 26, 2024 | 11:03 AM
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What are you running in the Primary for lube? Syn 3 or Formula Plus?
 
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Old Jun 26, 2024 | 11:19 AM
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What are you running in the Primary for lube? Syn 3 or Formula Plus?
AMSOIL Primary fluid
 
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Old Jun 26, 2024 | 12:22 PM
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For what it's worth after my recent 3-hole change (27,500 miles) using Syn3 in all 3, I've noticed a bit more "noise" at idle than previously when I ran Red Line in the transmission. The next 3-hole change I plan on switching back to Red Line in the transmission and Syn3 in the engine and primary. (btw...I change all 3 fluids every year or every 5,000 miles, whichever comes first)
 

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Old Jun 26, 2024 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Maniak31
AMSOIL Primary fluid
I can tell you this. I worked in the Service Dept of a Harley dealership. I can't tell you how many guys complained about noisy primaries that switched back to Harley Formula Plus from Syn 3 and similar lighter oils and the noise went away immediately. I know 20/50 is recommended but this often works. I'm one of them. I like Amsoil but in this case it may not be the best for your primary. Try Formula Plus and see if it disappears. Just a suggestion, it's worked for lots of other who thought they had more serious problems.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2024 | 08:33 AM
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I agree with pulling the primary cover and inspecting. On my 2012 I had the same type of issue and the problem ended up being the shoe on the automatic primary chain tensioner was warn. Replaced and problem solved. The bike had about 50K on it at the time.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2024 | 09:44 AM
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If it is the compensator you'll notice slower, more labored starting with the occasional backfire and metal-to-metal CLUNK.
 
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Originally Posted by Gunnysgt
I can tell you this. I worked in the Service Dept of a Harley dealership. I can't tell you how many guys complained about noisy primaries that switched back to Harley Formula Plus from Syn 3 and similar lighter oils and the noise went away immediately. I know 20/50 is recommended but this often works. I'm one of them. I like Amsoil but in this case it may not be the best for your primary. Try Formula Plus and see if it disappears. Just a suggestion, it's worked for lots of other who thought they had more serious problems.
Of course it's quieter with F+. F+ is thicker than syn 3 and "similar lighter fluids". Thicker fluids naturally mask sound much better. Same reason most engines sound quieter on startup, when cold, than they do when full temp.
 
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I have been running HD"s new gear oil in my primary and i really like the performance of it. Less noise for sure.
 
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