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Old Jun 14, 2025 | 10:50 PM
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As stated, the pawl asssembly in play now, does not have enough room between its hooks in what is going to center as, to allow it to drop both sides down on the drum pegs.

Maybe you can tweak the none adjustable bolt (36 below) end to solve the problem so both pawl hooks can index to drop down both side when it centers, or may have to tweak the pawl hooks to make slight more room between them, so both hooks can drop down in place. Right now, even when you forward blip the trans lever to let the front hook drop in place behind the drum pin, the other pawl hook is slightly too tight to it pin on its side.

2005 5 speed trans, and notice the differences in the pawl assemblies between the older trans, and the newer trans, and may be the problem is only older style pawl assembly is being used for newer drum style drum now (read need to use a HD34972-02 pawl assembly for newer drum style)..
so a few things based on what your saying. I had to change the shift drum but noticed on the old drum the shift dowels are larger than the 05, but the dowel length is different so i can’t swap to check. I did notice baker makes a drum with bigger dowels. Or I can pull the primaries and put the pawl adjuster from my original back in and see if I could adjust it.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2025 | 11:04 PM
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when it’s off and I rock the rear tire it will shift through all gears, but when I go to ride it is not engaging the same.
The lever moves but it don't shift? The pawl it hanging up on the edge drum. It's not aligned on the pins.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2025 | 01:42 AM
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Pawl shaft bushing needs to be replaced on the trans case, so pawl assembly needs to get pulled to change that out either way.

Now on the pawl assembly in not Baker drum, but later oem drum, look at what you have for pawl assembly in play not, and make sure that the one you are using, does not have the C clip to change out the pawl on the assembly.

The later pawl assembly for that later oem shift drum, will have the pawl hook rod peen in place (pawl can not be removed).



And again, pawl shifter assembly HD34972-02,

Not HD 34084-86 below, that you can remove the pawl from the assemlby via the C clip, and the hook are slightly closer together on the pawl as well.
 

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Old Jun 15, 2025 | 10:36 AM
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Taken from the video.. Look at the pawl. Notice that it is not setting on the pins so when the arm moves it can't grab the pin. The problem with this case is that the drum did not rotate all the and go into gear also..


 
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Old Jun 16, 2025 | 09:28 PM
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So I put another 05 drum and new shift forks and now it will shift on light acceleration into all gears, but on hard acceleration it does what it has been doing. I just ordered the baker n1 shift kit to see if that might help as it puts neutral before 1st.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2025 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Dano523
Pawl shaft bushing needs to be replaced on the trans case, so pawl assembly needs to get pulled to change that out either way.

Now on the pawl assembly in not Baker drum, but later oem drum, look at what you have for pawl assembly in play not, and make sure that the one you are using, does not have the C clip to change out the pawl on the assembly.

The later pawl assembly for that later oem shift drum, will have the pawl hook rod peen in place (pawl can not be removed).



And again, pawl shifter assembly HD34972-02,

Not HD 34084-86 below, that you can remove the pawl from the assemlby via the C clip, and the hook are slightly closer together on the pawl as well.
I don’t quite follow, I know your trying to help but I think our back and forth is getting a little confused.

I have this shift pawl nowit is seems like it is slightly off alignment wise but there is no adjustment on the 05 setup
 
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Old Jun 16, 2025 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Headflow
Taken from the video.. Look at the pawl. Notice that it is not setting on the pins so when the arm moves it can't grab the pin. The problem with this case is that the drum did not rotate all the and go into gear also..

you are correct, it’s not fully falling into gear and causing it to get a false neutral.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2025 | 08:56 PM
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Default N1 baker shifter update

Installed the n1 shift drum and it will go to all the gears but now downshifting is an issue.
 
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The N1 Shift Drums have a 0-down all-up shifting pattern and eliminate any possibility of catching neutral on aggressive 1-2 shifts. Neutral is below 1st. The N1 drum is also popular with hand shifting bikes where finding neutral without doubt or error is critical to safety or riding/looking smooth.

And next, which type shift pawl assembly in play?
Hence old drum style, new drum style, or Baker.

https://bakerdrivetrain.com/products...t-ratchet-pawl
click the the filament box, so you get the correct pawl assembly for the drum in play, or just call up Baker to see what stock OEM shifter pawl assembly you should be using with the N1 drum.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2025 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Dano523
The N1 Shift Drums have a 0-down all-up shifting pattern and eliminate any possibility of catching neutral on aggressive 1-2 shifts. Neutral is below 1st. The N1 drum is also popular with hand shifting bikes where finding neutral without doubt or error is critical to safety or riding/looking smooth.

And next, which type shift pawl assembly in play?
Hence old drum style, new drum style, or Baker.

https://bakerdrivetrain.com/products...t-ratchet-pawl
click the the filament box, so you get the correct pawl assembly for the drum in play, or just call up Baker to see what stock OEM shifter pawl assembly you should be using with the N1 drum.
I’m pretty sure the issue is I swapped out the shift pawl adjuster with the 2005 centering pin and the case is probably slightly off, so the pawl is not sitting in the right position. I’m going to remove the primary today and install the shift pawl adjuster from the 2000.
 
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