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im tired of craftsman tools im tiered of thier rachets that seems to come unlockedwhen in the tightest places .what does everybody think of husky tools today i stoped at home depot and it looks like their major brand is husky i am a beliver in you get what to pay for husky is alot cheaper then most brands any how what does every body think of husky tools
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most all tools are made by a very few manufactures. It comes down to which ones you like and how much you want to spend. Find one you like with a lifetime guarantee and run with it. Craftsman in my opinion are not what they used to be they have gotten cheap.
I have a large collection of Mac tools expensive but good but overpriced. But the materials and quality is better than the tools that are made in the same factory.
Stanley is a big player in the tool market. I don't want to type it all but heres some info.
I did not write this here is a link to what i quoted below:http://bracketmasters.com/Tool%20Facts.htm
Okay, here's more than you ever wanted to know.
Loews now (as of earlier this year) is selling a line of Mechanics Tools called Kobalt which is made by Snap-On. Snap-On. They are good tools.
Home Depot's Home Depot's Husky brand is made by Stanley Mechanics Tools, a division of the Stanley Works. Husky are also good tools and have a good lifetime warranty (they'll even replace your broken Craftsman with an equivalent Husky).
Until 1994 or so, Stanley also made Sears Craftsman tools. Sears Craftsman is now made by Danaher Tools. They beat out Stanley Stanley on the contract over price. Danaher also manufactures MatCo Tools, the third largest player in the Mobile Automotive industry (behind MAC and Snap-On). Odds are, if you own any Craftsman tools that are older than about five years ago, they were made by Stanley in plants in Dallas, Texas, Wichita Falls, Texas, and Sabina, Ohio.
Stanley also owns MAC Tools and manufactures MAC tools in the same plants. Now here's the kicker: MAC Tools, Proto Tools (a very expensive industrial brand), Husky Tools, and, (prior to five or so years ago) Craftsman Tools are all made from the same forgings in the same plants. Proto is unique because it goes through additional testing and certification because it is used by NASA, the military, and industrial customers (including General Motors).
[font="trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica"][font=helvetica][size=-1]There are three MAJOR players in the USA mechanics tool business: Stanley, Danaher, and Snap-On. Stanley and Danaher (almost identical in sales revenue at about $28 billion each) are the biggest followed by Snap-On. Each of these three manufacture and sell tools under a variety of brands (there are many other brands that Stanley makes that I haven't even named). The quality between these three manufacturers is roughly the same. I know its a bit of a let-
I have a large collection of Mac tools expensive but good but overpriced. But the materials and quality is better than the tools that are made in the same factory.
Stanley is a big player in the tool market. I don't want to type it all but heres some info.
I did not write this here is a link to what i quoted below:http://bracketmasters.com/Tool%20Facts.htm
Okay, here's more than you ever wanted to know.
Loews now (as of earlier this year) is selling a line of Mechanics Tools called Kobalt which is made by Snap-On. Snap-On. They are good tools.
Home Depot's Home Depot's Husky brand is made by Stanley Mechanics Tools, a division of the Stanley Works. Husky are also good tools and have a good lifetime warranty (they'll even replace your broken Craftsman with an equivalent Husky).
Until 1994 or so, Stanley also made Sears Craftsman tools. Sears Craftsman is now made by Danaher Tools. They beat out Stanley Stanley on the contract over price. Danaher also manufactures MatCo Tools, the third largest player in the Mobile Automotive industry (behind MAC and Snap-On). Odds are, if you own any Craftsman tools that are older than about five years ago, they were made by Stanley in plants in Dallas, Texas, Wichita Falls, Texas, and Sabina, Ohio.
Stanley also owns MAC Tools and manufactures MAC tools in the same plants. Now here's the kicker: MAC Tools, Proto Tools (a very expensive industrial brand), Husky Tools, and, (prior to five or so years ago) Craftsman Tools are all made from the same forgings in the same plants. Proto is unique because it goes through additional testing and certification because it is used by NASA, the military, and industrial customers (including General Motors).
[font="trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica"][font=helvetica][size=-1]There are three MAJOR players in the USA mechanics tool business: Stanley, Danaher, and Snap-On. Stanley and Danaher (almost identical in sales revenue at about $28 billion each) are the biggest followed by Snap-On. Each of these three manufacture and sell tools under a variety of brands (there are many other brands that Stanley makes that I haven't even named). The quality between these three manufacturers is roughly the same. I know its a bit of a let-
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RE: handtools
Although Craftsman tools are cheaper than the Professional series tools (Snap-on, Matco, Corneell, Mac) THey really are good tools. Easy to find a store to trade in a busted tool. If it's just the ratchet that is a problem, pick one of the major professional brands and purchase a ratchet.
http://www.snapon.com/
http://www.matcotools.com/
http://www.mactools.com/Mac/
http://www.cornwelltools.com/index.asp
http://www.snapon.com/
http://www.matcotools.com/
http://www.mactools.com/Mac/
http://www.cornwelltools.com/index.asp
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RE: handtools
? were does Armstrong tools fit in> Order a special tool from Sears came from ARMSTRONG?
When it comes to special driver bits., Torx, Phillips, etc.I only use Snap-on on my motorcycles.
When it comes to special driver bits., Torx, Phillips, etc.I only use Snap-on on my motorcycles.
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thanks every body for your input all very good info man its a shock to see how the price of tools have come down .ive had my tools for at least 30 years.mostly craftsman .any how i need the best tools for my 07 cant go cheap but need alot of new and different tools any how thanks for the good info and happy holidays to all
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I am a tool Distributer and I worked for1 other company distributing tools and a Field manager...I am not in the business to knock the competition...but I will give you a honest assessment if you pm me for a specific tool you are looking for.
The letter above has legitimacyfor theyear2000 a long time ago...alot has changed in the tool business...alot especially where hard line is made...The letter is old
The letter above has legitimacyfor theyear2000 a long time ago...alot has changed in the tool business...alot especially where hard line is made...The letter is old
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RE: handtools
Not saying the letter is up today but just giving a guy some thought.
There is no need foryour general joe to own 20,000 in mac tools. A good set of craftsman or husky or kolbalt is all that is needed.
I have $20k in tools only because its my job and i only had to pay for half that.
There is no need foryour general joe to own 20,000 in mac tools. A good set of craftsman or husky or kolbalt is all that is needed.
I have $20k in tools only because its my job and i only had to pay for half that.
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RE: handtools
All I know is this.....a 12pt 10mm combo wrench made by Craftsman will last less than half the time a Snap-On wrench of the same size will. Explain that.....if the tools are so close in quality.....then why can I totally wear out a Craftsman wrench in three months.....yet the Snap-On one lasts me a year? The same goes for the sockets.As far as screwdrivers go......I dont know how Craftsman EVER got away with calling what they sell a tool. For screwdrivers...I will only use a Snap-On. This info didn't come off the internet......this is totally personal experience whilewrenchingat a jap bike dealership.
Also.....if it is true that all tools are so close, dont you think that this knowledge would be more wide spread, and every professional tech would just buy the least expensive tool, instead of Snap-On.
All I can say is this......just try them for yourself, and come up with your own decision of whats best for you.....for me I will stick with Snap-On.
Also.....if it is true that all tools are so close, dont you think that this knowledge would be more wide spread, and every professional tech would just buy the least expensive tool, instead of Snap-On.
All I can say is this......just try them for yourself, and come up with your own decision of whats best for you.....for me I will stick with Snap-On.