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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 03:01 PM
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[sm=WTFsgign.gif]was the question again?[sm=outcold.gif]
 
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 04:05 PM
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Holy cow, has anyone looked at their bikes.ChooChoo is in-correct. The stabilizer links do not align your engine. The alignment tools align the engine. The engine cannot flop around in the chassis since the rear pivot shaft extends through the transmission case and the engine is bolted directly through it. The stabilizer links (2), and always have had two, maintain the engines horizontal and verticalalignment. They do not isolate engine vibration. The upperlink that has been located under the fuel tank was moved forward for two reasons. The larger fuel tank and changes to the new larger induction module. The front engine isolators and rear cleave blocks absorb the engines vibration. The front "up and down" the rear "side to side."
DING! DING! DING! We have a winner!!!
 
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 07:35 PM
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Holy cow, has anyone looked at their bikes.ChooChoo is in-correct. The stabilizer links do not align your engine. The alignment tools align the engine. The engine cannot flop around in the chassis since the rear pivot shaft extends through the transmission case and the engine is bolted directly through it. The stabilizer links (2), and always have had two, maintain the engines horizontal and verticalalignment. They do not isolate engine vibration. The upperlink that has been located under the fuel tank was moved forward for two reasons. The larger fuel tank and changes to the new larger induction module. The front engine isolators and rear cleave blocks absorb the engines vibration. The front "up and down" the rear "side to side."
DING! DING! DING! We have a winner!!!
Some people are pretty dense. If you ever had your bike apart or studied the Service Manual you would see that the engine-transmission-swingarm move around TOGETHER as a unit! They are isolated from the frame by rubber at the swingarm bolt as well as the front mount. The engine ( and tranny) will indeed "flop around" in the frame without the stabilizer links and they do- but the links keep the drivetrain aligned with the frame LATERALLY!!! What would be the point of rubber mounts if you used solid steel links to stophorizontal and vertical motion?You can see the damned thing rocking up and down at idle. Look atyour bike, look at the ServiceManual, look at my previous post-#29. If you read the section on alignment in the Manual, you'll see that both links are adjusted to move the drivetrain left or right in the frame to align the rear wheel.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 08:23 PM
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It is there on the 08s to improve the 5th gear noise and the 6th gear jacking in the cruisedrive transmission, it will be available to the 07s for a nominal fee (plus labor charges).

It is not to "fix" any "problem" identified on the 07s, but just an "enhancement" to ridability.......[8D]
Now thats funny right there...
 
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 08:26 PM
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Now if I can get one of those forward head/frame links and modify it to be my new shifter linkage I'd be in business with out paying some 100 plus bucks for a Heim joint linkage!
 
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 09:00 PM
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Now I am really confused... I guess that wasn't a simple question.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 09:05 PM
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Some people are pretty dense. If you ever had your bike apart or studied the Service Manual ..........
If you read the section on alignment in the Manual,......
You're right, some people are pretty dense. You keep saying to "study your service manual" but I'm so dense I can't find my service manual (oh, yeah, I forgot, they're not available for the '08s yet which is what we are talking about). And I think my answer is correct, they moved the link to make room for the 6 gallon tank.

And please tell us dense ones where you got your '08 Touring service manual.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 10:38 PM
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Some people are pretty dense. If you ever had your bike apart or studied the Service Manual ..........
If you read the section on alignment in the Manual,......
You're right, some people are pretty dense. You keep saying to "study your service manual" but I'm so dense I can't find my service manual (oh, yeah, I forgot, they're not available for the '08s yet which is what we are talking about). And I think my answer is correct, they moved the link to make room for the 6 gallon tank.
And please tell us dense ones where you got your '08 Touring service manual.

How many ways can we prolong this? The only thing that changed was that the top stabilizer bar was moved forward in '08. There are plenty of manuals out there for all the other years. There was so much confusion created by thearmchair expertson this one simple topic. I attempted to explain it in simple terms.
Looks like you fly airplanes. So do I. I own two. I also have an aircraft maintenance business. As you well know, misinformation from the ill informed in our business is unacceptable. It's frustrating to see people volunteer inaccurate 'opinions' on a simple mechanical issue. Reminds me of the occasional customer who heard of a better 'fix' for his airplane on the internet.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 10:56 PM
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....And please tell us dense ones where you got your '08 Touring service manual.
Ya[sm=bicker.gif]what he said.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 10:57 PM
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Anyone who thinks thatthe links don't have anything to do with alignment are probably the same ones complaining about wobble....

MCNews reported on this years ago, when they were trying to figure out why Road Kings were coming from the factory with the rear wheel 3/4" out of plane with the front. The links were improperly adjusted at the factory.

And you don't need the shop manual to know this. Read your owner's manual! This is what mine says, under "Vehicle alignment".

"Vehicle alignment is important. Major alignment of the front and rear wheel is partially controlled by the stabilizer link at the top of the engine."

 
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