Upset or not!
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RE: Upset or not!
I bet you got a pin hole or bigger leak some where if its saying compression issue. Or somethings not torqued down right. Damn cpu sensors.
On newcages if the gas cap isn't on tight enough or its an old oneit makes the engine light come on too.
On newcages if the gas cap isn't on tight enough or its an old oneit makes the engine light come on too.
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From: Detroit, MI
RE: Upset or not!
Upset! There is no such thing as a "false code". I write and test automotive diagnostic software for engine controls (long-winded for "**** that controls the CE light). There can only be one of two things:
1) there is a problem with the bike that needs to be fixed (that "false code" should tell them where to start looking).
2) there is a software error in the controller and you need to have the controller "re-flashed" with updated software.
Since I haven't seen any other posts like this on any of the forums that I frequent, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the software is OK, and that #1 is your problem. Good luck!!
1) there is a problem with the bike that needs to be fixed (that "false code" should tell them where to start looking).
2) there is a software error in the controller and you need to have the controller "re-flashed" with updated software.
Since I haven't seen any other posts like this on any of the forums that I frequent, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the software is OK, and that #1 is your problem. Good luck!!
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From: ID ho
RE: Upset or not!
ORIGINAL: bobbyg12
Upset! There is no such thing as a "false code". I write and test automotive diagnostic software for engine controls (long-winded for "**** that controls the CE light).
Upset! There is no such thing as a "false code". I write and test automotive diagnostic software for engine controls (long-winded for "**** that controls the CE light).
I would suspect that what he told you was a no "COMBUSTION" code not no "COMPRESSION". The no combustion codes do set quite often on bikes that are running perfectly. A loose plug wire or spark plug not torqued properly can set them.
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From: Detroit, MI
RE: Upset or not!
Hogdoc, sounds like a calibration issue then. I'm not familiar with the bike "tuning" (calibration) packages. Do you know if SERT, PCIII, etc. allow changes in parameters other than the fuel maps? In automotive, it's a huge no-no to mess with OBD parameters, but if you know what you're doing, you can make the window less narrow on some of these items using some of the available tools. I've found that, for the most part, the automotive OBD calibrators have gotten quite good, and if your CE light is on, something is definitely wrong under the hood in the anti-smog realm. Also, as I mentioned, and you confirmed, at least a NO COMBUSTION code will tell you where to start looking if there is a plug or wire problem.
ORIGINAL: hogdoc
Your right there actually is no such thing as a "FALSE CODE" but the parameters for some codes setting is so narrow that they will set if you fart to hard while riding.
I would suspect that what he told you was a no "COMBUSTION" code not no "COMPRESSION". The no combustion codes do set quite often on bikes that are running perfectly. A loose plug wire or spark plug not torqued properly can set them.
ORIGINAL: bobbyg12
Upset! There is no such thing as a "false code". I write and test automotive diagnostic software for engine controls (long-winded for "**** that controls the CE light).
Upset! There is no such thing as a "false code". I write and test automotive diagnostic software for engine controls (long-winded for "**** that controls the CE light).
I would suspect that what he told you was a no "COMBUSTION" code not no "COMPRESSION". The no combustion codes do set quite often on bikes that are running perfectly. A loose plug wire or spark plug not torqued properly can set them.
RE: Upset or not!
Ok here is the shops answer to my check engine light being on and throwing false codes. At the 15,000 mile check-up had platinum plugs installed. Was told that these had less resistance and was causing the check engine light to come on. Showing a no compression code. How does this sound to all the brain here in this fine forum, and believe me I trust you a lot more than I trust the dealer.
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From: Chicago, IL.
RE: Upset or not!
ORIGINAL: Duracell
I would have a problem with the statement that it's just throwing false codes don't worry about it. The ECUdoesn't just throw codes up for no reason. At the very least there is a faulty sensor that needs repair/replacement.
I would have a problem with the statement that it's just throwing false codes don't worry about it. The ECUdoesn't just throw codes up for no reason. At the very least there is a faulty sensor that needs repair/replacement.
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From: anacoco, la
RE: Upset or not!
ORIGINAL: choochoo
Because everybody has gotten complacent and lazy.
After a couple times it's normal, run around by the dealer and moco
they give up.
don't ever give up. There are procedures in place to hep you.
Send a couple certified return receipt letter to HD (the CEO).
Then file with the FTC (keep a copy).
Then if above fails, go to small claims court (name the dealers owner by
name as a defendant and HD CEO.. this way they personally have to appear
in court, not just their lawyer).
You still may not win but pretty soon after getting their azz hauled into court
by everybody they will get tired of the hassle and start doing things the right
way.
But EVERYBODY has to get off their lazy azzes and do something!!!
I don't like lawsuits, but sometimes it is your only option.
Because everybody has gotten complacent and lazy.
After a couple times it's normal, run around by the dealer and moco
they give up.
don't ever give up. There are procedures in place to hep you.
Send a couple certified return receipt letter to HD (the CEO).
Then file with the FTC (keep a copy).
Then if above fails, go to small claims court (name the dealers owner by
name as a defendant and HD CEO.. this way they personally have to appear
in court, not just their lawyer).
You still may not win but pretty soon after getting their azz hauled into court
by everybody they will get tired of the hassle and start doing things the right
way.
But EVERYBODY has to get off their lazy azzes and do something!!!
I don't like lawsuits, but sometimes it is your only option.
Road Captain
Joined: Mar 2006
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From: Narberth Pa 19072
RE: Upset or not!
Absolutly ! A weak spark ,or intermittent spark, Just like it was
said A couple of time earlier . Even A plug wire not connected all the way
can cause the light to come on ! Hope the light stays out .
Jack
said A couple of time earlier . Even A plug wire not connected all the way
can cause the light to come on ! Hope the light stays out .
Jack
ORIGINAL: turtleman57
Ok here is the shops answer to my check engine light being on and throwing false codes. At the 15,000 mile check-up had platinum plugs installed. Was told that these had less resistance and was causing the check engine light to come on. Showing a no compression code. How does this sound to all the brain here in this fine forum, and believe me I trust you a lot more than I trust the dealer.
Ok here is the shops answer to my check engine light being on and throwing false codes. At the 15,000 mile check-up had platinum plugs installed. Was told that these had less resistance and was causing the check engine light to come on. Showing a no compression code. How does this sound to all the brain here in this fine forum, and believe me I trust you a lot more than I trust the dealer.