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I know it's civil, but he has this guys property and money. You have the police be there to assure the owner that his property is actually there in this guys shop. It's a show of force, to show the painter that he means business and will not let this issue continue any longer. It also helps reassure the painter that he can not do what this painter started to do, like get out of hand and try and blame the owner of the tins for his laziness.
I know it's civil, but he has this guys property and money. You have the police be there to assure the owner that his property is actually there in this guys shop. It's a show of force, to show the painter that he means business and will not let this issue continue any longer. It also helps reassure the painter that he can not do what this painter started to do, like get out of hand and try and blame the owner of the tins for his laziness.
The cops aren't meant to be your personal "muscle" show force and that you mean business. We do not get involved in civil matters, unless there is a likelihood of violence. In those case, it is usually during a domestic break up when one party is getting their belongings from a residence.
The cops aren't meant to be your personal "muscle" show force and that you mean business. We do not get involved in civil matters, unless there is a likelihood of violence. In those case, it is usually during a domestic break up when one party is getting their belongings from a residence.
That's kind of what I was getting at. My department rarely does this (we call it a civil standby). Like you said, most of the time it's done in reference to a domestic situation where one party is trying to retrieve their personal belongings. Way too often people try to use us as their muscle in business disputes. I have a rental property and I never have any dealings with my renters while I'm on duty or in uniform. I don't want the appearance that I'm using the badge to get my way.
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Bring a police officer with you to his shop saying you want an officer there to confirm that he has your parts.
Don't bother with the police. It's a civil issue (i.e. business deal gone bad) and the police only handle criminal matters. Only legal action you can take is small claims court.
Im dealing with the same issue on a VW that my dad paid in full to have painted over TWO years ago. Its a fine line you walk because the painter has both your money and your parts. Im not gonna stand by while my dad gets screwed over -- so Ive threatened, cussed and fussed. Ive been diplomatic and I call the SOB everyweek and ask about his car. I go see him every two weeks..............gets old but he is slowly making progress. Some days PMS kicks in and I see fear in his eyes!! Just as an fyi -- it can be a criminal offense here in NC because he took the payment and has maliciously and willfully taken money for a service that he is refusing to complete and Ive got phone records and other to verify. You just gotta find the right person to talk to and get the charges filed. Especially if he has done this to other people. Ive got that as a last resort and dont wanna pull that card out until absolutely necessary because all I want is my dads old VW convertible completed!
Good Luck on your tins and hope you get em back nice and purdy!
BTDT! I didn't make any down payment, but spent *way* too long waitin' on a "good" painter to paint my tin. My "few weeks" turned into a few *months* while another guy got his painted 4 times by the same painter!
Then the eagle he claimed he could paint got sent to another guy & came back lookin' like a parrot. I refused to accept it. They sent it back & we started the wait again. I finally went in & told 'em I wanted my tin by the end of the week, finished or not. The guy's son said "you'll have to pay for what we've done". I told him he could peel his paint off & keep it! The painter kept us from coming to blows. The tin came back the next day in beautiful shape with a great job on the eagle. Two days later the clear was on & I had the tin at home.
The only reason the whole thing went as long as it did was that I have a spare set of tin. Some old stuff I'd painted a while earlier, but it'd hold gas & makes the bike useable. In north Florida it's wise to have some spare tin before you turn yours over to a painter. I know a guy that has a set painted with spray can bed liner. He lost a helmet he was havin' painted to match a custom job when the painter just closed up & left town. Lucky it wasn't his tin.......
I yet to meet a painter that will meet a promise time. They areon a world of their own. Must be all the fumesToo many stories, I'm still mad at some of them. Good luck
SUCK IT UP.... Put a Rental HD on Hold & if they get it done... You Solid to go... If NOT... Take the Rental - Get yours when it done - be nice pay for it and leave... Then take those suckers to SMALL CLAIMS for any out of pocket additional expense that the HD Rental and ??? Cost You!!! - Once they serve the Court Papers to the Low-Life\s - Park your car\truck on public parking and protest the business - Blast them in the local newspaper and so-on.....
f*ck him...he's got the ***** to get mad...f*ck him...get your sh*tandyour $ back...if he refuses, then call the cops right from his shop, get a police report, then take it to the peoples court!...f*ck him
you are a bigger man than me, if he would have gotten in my face i would have jumped rite back at him. hope it all works out for you. if not then take him to small claims court and ruin hios business.
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