Anyone seen this ? TBW causes death
Road Warrior
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From: Matthews, NC
RE: Anyone seen this ? TBW causes death
ORIGINAL: choochoo
My condolences to the family.
Hope they can prove it was a HD design flaw.
We really need NEW BLOOD AT THE TOP LEVEL OF MOCO
who has real concerns for us customers!
Again my condolences!
My condolences to the family.
Hope they can prove it was a HD design flaw.
We really need NEW BLOOD AT THE TOP LEVEL OF MOCO
who has real concerns for us customers!
Again my condolences!
Cruiser
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From: Great State of Texas
RE: Anyone seen this ? TBW causes death
Sorry to hear of the loss of a rider and injury to his wife. I sure hope it didn't happen down on Hwy 51. There's one corner there that eats a lot of bikes.
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From: Tallahassee, Fl
RE: Anyone seen this ? TBW causes death
FYI, Your Sporty does not have the same throttle set up as the 08 touring bikes. Your bike has the old style throttle cables, so if yours stuck that goes to prove that it's not just the TBW set ups that appear to be sticking.
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From: New Bern NC
RE: Anyone seen this ? TBW causes death
No Peppa1 you must be wrong.
A throttle cable has never jammed[:'(] broke[:-] hung wide open......[:@]Left anyone stranded,,,, caused an accident or death,,,,,, never!!!
It only happens to the new stuff,,,,,, Why did HD ever invent such technology,,,,, I bet they got it from Al Gore. Yea ,that's it.
Some of you guys need to change your points and oil your kick starts!!!!!
A throttle cable has never jammed[:'(] broke[:-] hung wide open......[:@]Left anyone stranded,,,, caused an accident or death,,,,,, never!!!
It only happens to the new stuff,,,,,, Why did HD ever invent such technology,,,,, I bet they got it from Al Gore. Yea ,that's it.
Some of you guys need to change your points and oil your kick starts!!!!!
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From: Midtown Tulsa
RE: Anyone seen this ? TBW causes death
The throttle by wire has to be a simple potentiometer design. Nothing really fancy about it. Certain amount of hand throttle roll equals a certain percentage of throttle blade opening.Not too high tech.
Been around on trucks (I mean trucks, not pick ups) since at least the late 80's. When the TPS (Throttle Position Switch) goes bad it usually returns you to idle with no acceleration control. Maybe the design of the HD potentiometer is picking up latent/back-fed electrical signals. Dunno.
RIP and condolences to the MRS.
Been around on trucks (I mean trucks, not pick ups) since at least the late 80's. When the TPS (Throttle Position Switch) goes bad it usually returns you to idle with no acceleration control. Maybe the design of the HD potentiometer is picking up latent/back-fed electrical signals. Dunno.
RIP and condolences to the MRS.
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From: Baton Rouge, LA
RE: Anyone seen this
ORIGINAL: The Baron
I have a question though. Couldn't a guy just pull in the clutch?
I have a question though. Couldn't a guy just pull in the clutch?
Road Master
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From: SW Florida
RE: Anyone seen this ? TBW causes death
ORIGINAL: uweldit
Oh c'mon now...the kill switch don't reset the idle speed when the engine is revved up.
I've done it during testing and it don't happen.
Oh c'mon now...the kill switch don't reset the idle speed when the engine is revved up.
I've done it during testing and it don't happen.
I haven't had any problems out of mine and I use the kill switch all the time revved or not.. Mine does idle a little high when 1st started, but drops down soon. Nice feel to it and crisp response. 5000 miles on an 08 SG,
BUT after reading about others mishaps, and fatalities with FBW I am certainly knocking on wood..!!
My condolences to the Mrs, and family..
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RE: Anyone seen this ? TBW causes death
ORIGINAL: ripper43
Glad I could help But, your bike does not have this type of throttle system so if it was/is sticking take it to the dealer ASAP and get it checked out because any sticking is an unsafe condition........ Good luck and ride safe
ORIGINAL: LdyMjo
I'm very sorry for the family's loss, and the road ahead for the wife.Ripper, thank you for the post. I am a new riderwith approx. 650on an 08 XL1200N and had my throttle stick yesterday in first. I am not sure if my set up is the same, but I will have it looked at. Yesterday I re-checked everything I was doing and there was nothing that should have been causing this. I just thought hum, must be cold or something--idle sticking. It seemed fine later in the day. I hadn't heard of this problem with any HD model before.
And hey, captjohn37, WTF? A head's up is an appropriate thing, and he's got a good reason to give us one. I did not read a dark omen in this, just concern. There is too much on this site that tries to blow off precautions becausesomefolks don't want to hear it. Someof us are grateful. Lighten up.
I'm very sorry for the family's loss, and the road ahead for the wife.Ripper, thank you for the post. I am a new riderwith approx. 650on an 08 XL1200N and had my throttle stick yesterday in first. I am not sure if my set up is the same, but I will have it looked at. Yesterday I re-checked everything I was doing and there was nothing that should have been causing this. I just thought hum, must be cold or something--idle sticking. It seemed fine later in the day. I hadn't heard of this problem with any HD model before.
And hey, captjohn37, WTF? A head's up is an appropriate thing, and he's got a good reason to give us one. I did not read a dark omen in this, just concern. There is too much on this site that tries to blow off precautions becausesomefolks don't want to hear it. Someof us are grateful. Lighten up.
RIP brother.
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RE: Anyone seen this
let's see HDMOCO can't make a simple outdoor thermometer
(ambient air temp) work right, and you're going to trust them
with your life to make a TBW that works flawlessly?
I don't think so!!!
(ambient air temp) work right, and you're going to trust them
with your life to make a TBW that works flawlessly?
I don't think so!!!
ORIGINAL: ripper43
Thats just it, it's not new It'sbeen around a long time. maybe not in this application but in many others.
ORIGINAL: jag1886
I looked at 08's RC'sbefore purchasing my 07RC. I told my wife it the showroom that I wasn't willing to trust my life to some new technology that Harley had dreamed up.
I looked at 08's RC'sbefore purchasing my 07RC. I told my wife it the showroom that I wasn't willing to trust my life to some new technology that Harley had dreamed up.