DYNO Numbers for Baggers???
Novice
Joined: Oct 2009
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From: Forest, Va
If my memory serves me right I believe the SE bikes come with 110's dont they?Being these 117's are cheaper to build than running a Pro-Charger what does one cost out the door incl.fuel management system,you keep saying how much cheaper they are?Maybe if I get one of your motors than I could call myself Mr.Fastbagger again.
Road Captain
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Thats what I figured your prices are as inflated as your ego.Oh and one other thing what kind of warrantee comes with this world renowned build.Pro-Charger offers a 3yr.warrantee on the whole system for a mere $30.
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From: Northern VA
Fastbagger, you insist on viewing this as a pro-charger vs hemi dustup, when in fact it is not. The issue is the way you casually insult the integrity of those who built and tuned the Hemi engine from the safety of your keyboard. If you ever come to your senses, we can lay this nonsense to rest, but if you keep firing from the lip, then expect more responses.
Last edited by Plow64; Nov 8, 2009 at 07:41 AM.
Tourer
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From: POPLAR GROVE IL.
Come on guys knock this off!!! Every bike and every build is different. The man asked a question. How many of us need to be there to see it in order to beleive it. We all get this...
I would love to try a set of your heads. I have 08 rocker that is going to get a pro charger I will ask him if he would like head work done. But see I have a problem with this because I have to tell him how much power he will make with your head work. And I have two of them going to Australia. Let me see what I can do. Maybe we can talk about my bike getting head work down by you first. I would like to talk to you about this.
I will pm you with a number........ Also there is a shop here in ILL. by Chicago called Hemi Perfromance and they claim the same thing. Are you two the same shop?
I have built so many turbos / super charger bikes I lose count....LOL In this business every knows me as Turbo Frank when Im done with a busa it will go 200 m/p/h plus....and runs 9's/7's all day. And Harleys Baggers running low 11's an 10 "s in 1/4 mile
Now see on my bike builds I try for 4.hp for every inch Thats why I use a blower with motor build. I like 93/99 % VE of the engine. I have 74 inch motors making 300 hp plus... But again not Harleys.
With Harleys I shoot for 1.65/2.00 hp with blowers and an engine build. Thats why I can make a 95 inch harley run 157.hp all day.
I have a good question to ask and a good friend asked me this??? When did Baggers become the high performance race bike????????? Because I have no clue LOL LOL .880. pounds bikes trying to race. LOL LOL.
Now lets end this who makes more power because some out there is always going to be faster and make more power. Lets just have a beer... and enjoy.
Ride safe.......
I would love to try a set of your heads. I have 08 rocker that is going to get a pro charger I will ask him if he would like head work done. But see I have a problem with this because I have to tell him how much power he will make with your head work. And I have two of them going to Australia. Let me see what I can do. Maybe we can talk about my bike getting head work down by you first. I would like to talk to you about this.
I will pm you with a number........ Also there is a shop here in ILL. by Chicago called Hemi Perfromance and they claim the same thing. Are you two the same shop?
I have built so many turbos / super charger bikes I lose count....LOL In this business every knows me as Turbo Frank when Im done with a busa it will go 200 m/p/h plus....and runs 9's/7's all day. And Harleys Baggers running low 11's an 10 "s in 1/4 mile
Now see on my bike builds I try for 4.hp for every inch Thats why I use a blower with motor build. I like 93/99 % VE of the engine. I have 74 inch motors making 300 hp plus... But again not Harleys.
With Harleys I shoot for 1.65/2.00 hp with blowers and an engine build. Thats why I can make a 95 inch harley run 157.hp all day.
I have a good question to ask and a good friend asked me this??? When did Baggers become the high performance race bike????????? Because I have no clue LOL LOL .880. pounds bikes trying to race. LOL LOL.
Now lets end this who makes more power because some out there is always going to be faster and make more power. Lets just have a beer... and enjoy.
Ride safe.......
Last edited by DRAGO1; Nov 8, 2009 at 08:55 PM.
Road Captain
Joined: Dec 2008
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Fastbagger, you insist on viewing this as a pro-charger vs hemi dustup, when in fact it is not. The issue is the way you casually insult the integrity of those who built and tuned the Hemi engine from the safety of your keyboard. If you ever come to your senses, we can lay this nonsense to rest, but if you keep firing from the lip, then expect more responses.
Advanced
Joined: Sep 2009
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From: Portland, OR
Well then maybe you can answer the question I asked George.How much does one of these 117 builds cost out the door?If it 's less than a Pro-Charger maybe I'll sell the Pro-Charger and go with this 117 build.Better yet maybe I'll go with one of these builds and Pro-Charge my bike and have the best of both worlds.
Tourer
Joined: Sep 2009
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From: Tampa Fl
Help a poor man decide.
I am trying to figure what is the next biggest bang for the buck, should I remove my SE slip on's and install and tune a set of 2-1 either Supertrapps or D&D's or get my heads ported?
What is the normal gain in hp and trq from a good head port and polish job?
What could I gain in hp and trq from dumping the slip on's and going 2-1. I do ride 2 up once in a while and at those times I dont really care for speed but when I do ride solo I want that bagger to move NOW and that is most of the time.
Thanks.
I am trying to figure what is the next biggest bang for the buck, should I remove my SE slip on's and install and tune a set of 2-1 either Supertrapps or D&D's or get my heads ported?
What is the normal gain in hp and trq from a good head port and polish job?
What could I gain in hp and trq from dumping the slip on's and going 2-1. I do ride 2 up once in a while and at those times I dont really care for speed but when I do ride solo I want that bagger to move NOW and that is most of the time.
Thanks.
Novice
Joined: Oct 2009
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From: Forest, Va
Prices are on the Manufactures web page. Prices vary with Installers. It depends on where you start and where you want to end up. It's hard to compare apples to oranges. It depends on personal taste. I think a little fruit salad would be good. I would not recommend having a engine built that makes over 120 HP without doing bottom end work because it will not stay together long. Thanks, George
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6th Gear
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103" Big Bore dyno results
Got her dynoed last week.
103" S.E. flatops (9.6-1 compression), Rinehardts, Andrews 37's .510 lift cams Dunnperformance heads (my own). Stock size valves.
89.2h.p. 108.9 fp torque (torquemonster)
Very dependable with the lower compression and mild cams.
You don't need huge cams, and high compression pistons to create some serious power.
103" S.E. flatops (9.6-1 compression), Rinehardts, Andrews 37's .510 lift cams Dunnperformance heads (my own). Stock size valves.
89.2h.p. 108.9 fp torque (torquemonster)
Very dependable with the lower compression and mild cams.
You don't need huge cams, and high compression pistons to create some serious power.
Road Captain
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 701
Likes: 5
Prices are on the Manufactures web page. Prices vary with Installers. It depends on where you start and where you want to end up. It's hard to compare apples to oranges. It depends on personal taste. I think a little fruit salad would be good. I would not recommend having a engine built that makes over 120 HP without doing bottom end work because it will not stay together long. Thanks, George