Feelin' Screwed
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From: Colorado
RE: Feelin' Screwed
ORIGINAL: Windup08
If your life isn't worth more than $300 then go ahead and plug or put a tube in. I've read too many articles from MC tire manufacturers that state any fix on a tire is temporary at best. Its not just Harley dealers that won't repair a tire, I've seen the same at Yamaha dealers, and a good shop would never fix a punctured tire and let you ride away on it. Either do it yourself and risk your own life or buy a new one. I know the stories about repaired tires lasting for thousands of miles, but the odds of a major failure at the worst possible time are way higher. I just can't imagine why someone would want to scrimp and save on such a critical part.
If your life isn't worth more than $300 then go ahead and plug or put a tube in. I've read too many articles from MC tire manufacturers that state any fix on a tire is temporary at best. Its not just Harley dealers that won't repair a tire, I've seen the same at Yamaha dealers, and a good shop would never fix a punctured tire and let you ride away on it. Either do it yourself and risk your own life or buy a new one. I know the stories about repaired tires lasting for thousands of miles, but the odds of a major failure at the worst possible time are way higher. I just can't imagine why someone would want to scrimp and save on such a critical part.
Tourer
Joined: Jun 2007
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From: San Antonio, TX
RE: Feelin' Screwed
The factory person that installed the tube in a tubeless tire was wrong to do so. A tubeless tire has a thicker inner wall to hold the air in, where a tubed tire is thinner. So when you put a tube in a tubeless more heat get generated because of the added material.
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Joined: May 2005
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RE: Feelin' Screwed
ORIGINAL: Windup08
If your life isn't worth more than $300 then go ahead and plug or put a tube in. I've read too many articles from MC tire manufacturers that state any fix on a tire is temporary at best. Its not just Harley dealers that won't repair a tire, I've seen the same at Yamaha dealers, and a good shop would never fix a punctured tire and let you ride away on it. Either do it yourself and risk your own life or buy a new one. I know the stories about repaired tires lasting for thousands of miles, but the odds of a major failure at the worst possible time are way higher. I just can't imagine why someone would want to scrimp and save on such a critical part.
If your life isn't worth more than $300 then go ahead and plug or put a tube in. I've read too many articles from MC tire manufacturers that state any fix on a tire is temporary at best. Its not just Harley dealers that won't repair a tire, I've seen the same at Yamaha dealers, and a good shop would never fix a punctured tire and let you ride away on it. Either do it yourself and risk your own life or buy a new one. I know the stories about repaired tires lasting for thousands of miles, but the odds of a major failure at the worst possible time are way higher. I just can't imagine why someone would want to scrimp and save on such a critical part.
What exactly occurs when a plug or patch fails? \\; I don't have a problem with a dealership refusing to patch or plug a tire. \\; Are there any real statistics on this subject or just fear mongering. \\; My limited engineering background leads me to believe a failed plug will be found to not hold air, way before the tire disenegrates underneath me. \\; I would even bet the chances of picking up another screw or nail are better than the plug failing. \\;
Road Captain
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 597
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From: Texas
RE: Feelin' Screwed
ORIGINAL: OnTheFence
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What exactly occurs when a plug or patch fails? \\;\\\\\\; I don't have a problem with a dealership refusing to patch or plug a tire. \\;\\\\\\; Are there any real statistics on this subject or just fear mongering. \\;\\\\\\; My limited engineering background leads me to believe a failed plug will be found to not hold air, way before the tire disenegrates underneath me. \\;\\\\\\; I would even bet the chances of picking up another screw or nail are better than the plug failing. \\;\\\\\\;
ORIGINAL: Windup08
If your life isn't worth more than $300 then go ahead and plug or put a tube in. I've read too many articles from MC tire manufacturers that state any fix on a tire is temporary at best. Its not just Harley dealers that won't repair a tire, I've seen the same at Yamaha dealers, and a good shop would never fix a punctured tire and let you ride away on it. Either do it yourself and risk your own life or buy a new one. I know the stories about repaired tires lasting for thousands of miles, but the odds of a major failure at the worst possible time are way higher. I just can't imagine why someone would want to scrimp and save on such a critical part.
If your life isn't worth more than $300 then go ahead and plug or put a tube in. I've read too many articles from MC tire manufacturers that state any fix on a tire is temporary at best. Its not just Harley dealers that won't repair a tire, I've seen the same at Yamaha dealers, and a good shop would never fix a punctured tire and let you ride away on it. Either do it yourself and risk your own life or buy a new one. I know the stories about repaired tires lasting for thousands of miles, but the odds of a major failure at the worst possible time are way higher. I just can't imagine why someone would want to scrimp and save on such a critical part.
What exactly occurs when a plug or patch fails? \\;\\\\\\; I don't have a problem with a dealership refusing to patch or plug a tire. \\;\\\\\\; Are there any real statistics on this subject or just fear mongering. \\;\\\\\\; My limited engineering background leads me to believe a failed plug will be found to not hold air, way before the tire disenegrates underneath me. \\;\\\\\\; I would even bet the chances of picking up another screw or nail are better than the plug failing. \\;\\\\\\;
Good stuff keep it coming.
Dave
Road Captain
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 559
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From: Florida
RE: Feelin' Screwed
ORIGINAL: Windup08
If your life isn't worth more than $300 then go ahead and plug or put a tube in. I've read too many articles from MC tire manufacturers that state any fix on a tire is temporary at best. Its not just Harley dealers that won't repair a tire, I've seen the same at Yamaha dealers, and a good shop would never fix a punctured tire and let you ride away on it. Either do it yourself and risk your own life or buy a new one. I know the stories about repaired tires lasting for thousands of miles, but the odds of a major failure at the worst possible time are way higher. I just can't imagine why someone would want to scrimp and save on such a critical part.
If your life isn't worth more than $300 then go ahead and plug or put a tube in. I've read too many articles from MC tire manufacturers that state any fix on a tire is temporary at best. Its not just Harley dealers that won't repair a tire, I've seen the same at Yamaha dealers, and a good shop would never fix a punctured tire and let you ride away on it. Either do it yourself and risk your own life or buy a new one. I know the stories about repaired tires lasting for thousands of miles, but the odds of a major failure at the worst possible time are way higher. I just can't imagine why someone would want to scrimp and save on such a critical part.
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Banned
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,943
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From: Chicago.
RE: Feelin' Screwed
I carry a plug ki,t also a 12VDC compressor on my bike.
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NO way I'm giving the dealer 300 bucks.
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One good reason NOT to have spoked wheels.
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NO way I'm giving the dealer 300 bucks.
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One good reason NOT to have spoked wheels.
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