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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 06:24 AM
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HD would not authorize my dealer to do anything about the brake squeal. Mechanic reported it wasn't real bad. I asked the service guy if he rode it, cuz the only way that squeal isn't to bad is if you wear pistol muffs. He rode the scooter and agreed it was pretty bad. They took it on themselves to pull the pads and scuff them up. I left there and rode about 20 miles with no squeal and there it was back again. I called HD agin last week and bitched real nicely and they said they would have the head tour bike dude contact the dealer and advise of some other options. I called the service guy at my dealer later that day and HD had contacted him --- and now the kicker -- he told him to go to Wal Mart or Home Depot and get some spray insulation in a can, I started laughing and so did the service guy, he said there are some holes in the wheel (I'm assuming in the hub behind the rotors) and to fill them with the spray insulation and trim the excess with a razor blade, swap the rotors and all is good. I laughed some more. The thought is the holes in the wheel amplify normal brake noise. ??? OK, I'll buy that --maybe-- so why are we swapping sides with the rotors?? The service guy said someone was bringing in a Road King Custom (same wheels) on 3/17 with squealing front brakes and said he would give this fix a try. I said great --- let me know how it comes out before Wal Mart construction materials are used on my scooter. But hey, it might just work. I'll keep you posted.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 07:26 AM
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I am wondering how much the added unevenly distrubuted weight is going to effect the balance of the rotating assembly
 
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 08:56 AM
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I took my SG back to the dealer after about its first 50 miles for the same symptom. Dealer said he had a very few bikes this had happened to, not just the SG. He told me MOCO recognized the problem, as a "harmonics" issue in the wheel hub if I recall correctly. And that MOCO's solution was a sound deadener which they had. He ordered the "part", took about week and half. Then they had the bike about a week in the shop. I called them after about 4 days, because they told me they would only have it for a couple days or so. Service manager said MOCO's "stuff" didn't work, but he had to try, because of the warranty claim. (BTW, the "stuff" needs a cure time of 24 hrs, depending on temp, humidity, etc.) So he cleaned it all out, then used a product, he said that had worked for them before. I didn't get pissy with them at all,, weather was bad for riding anyways, and the svc mgr was a great guy. Well his stuff worked, and 1200 miles later, no squeal either, or wobble. I suspect they had a inconsistent wheel, hub production issue, borrowing WnoGood's theory.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 10:26 AM
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Can you provide some details on just what it was that they did to fix the problem?

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I took my SG back to the dealer after about its first 50 miles for the same symptom. Dealer said he had a very few bikes this had happened to, not just the SG. He told me MOCO recognized the problem, as a "harmonics" issue in the wheel hub if I recall correctly. And that MOCO's solution was a sound deadener which they had. He ordered the "part", took about week and half. Then they had the bike about a week in the shop. I called them after about 4 days, because they told me they would only have it for a couple days or so. Service manager said MOCO's "stuff" didn't work, but he had to try, because of the warranty claim. (BTW, the "stuff" needs a cure time of 24 hrs, depending on temp, humidity, etc.) So he cleaned it all out, then used a product, he said that had worked for them before. I didn't get pissy with them at all,, weather was bad for riding anyways, and the svc mgr was a great guy. Well his stuff worked, and 1200 miles later, no squeal either, or wobble. I suspect they had a inconsistent wheel, hub production issue, borrowing WnoGood's theory.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 11:43 AM
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sounds like you pull the wheel and rotors...fill the hub with foamin goo...i bet it works
 
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 09:18 PM
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Thats pretty much it Bryan TTM, I dont think its full or packed, more like its lined. Did 275 miles today total, man the SG is great on the highway and backroads, and we rode 2up.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 04:26 AM
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I dealer used silicone. Worked like a charm. I am installing the black floating rotors but thats for looks
 
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 08:54 AM
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sounds like you pull the wheel and rotors...fill the hub with foamin goo...i bet it works
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 09:14 AM
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This foamin goo and rotor swapping has been the only proven fix besides floating rotors for quite a while now. The RK Customs have the same style wheels so this has been their problem for a few years. The dealers always look for the easy way out and that would be scuffing the pads which only work for a few miles. Swapping the rotors seems to be the only real fix.

Trimster, how do you know it's not filled, just lined? Any way you can tell? I want to do this myself.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 09:45 AM
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ORIGINAL: Rhinohd

I dealer used silicone. Worked like a charm. I am installing the black floating rotors but thats for looks
If you use floating rotors you won't need to use the silicone,floating rotors=no squeal
 
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