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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 05:37 PM
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I'm looking at there front piece also.....not much feedback out there though.



Originally Posted by Emporers New Clothes
You may indeed have this issue if your jack fits (into) this area but after reading and checking into these components they all seem to do about the same thing so its gonna come down to what suits your needs the most.
As for me I like to be able to look at what I've spent my money on and I like the looks of this fully functional unit.I like it soo much I'm planning to add their other brace that mounts to the front of the motor to lessen the motor wobble...
http://www.alloyart.com/images/tri-link2.jpg
Tri-Link Front Motor Stabilizer
Tri-Link Frnt Motor Stabilizer For H-D FLH

Features:
CNC machined aluminum components, with grade 8 &
stainless hardware black anodized, or polished finish.
Eliminates the floaty, lightness feel in handlebard
at high speeds
Drastically increases high speed handling preforance
Stabilize's front of motor by triandulating the motor
in the front of the chassis.
Elimnates premature front motor mount deterioration.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 05:40 PM
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All very good feedback and much appreciated.

Streetrunner, quick question if I may:

I'm curious in your rationale when you went from one crossmember mounted device to another crossmember mounted device, what were you hoping to gain by the switch? Lastly, did it cure your wobble 100%?

Thanks in advance.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 06:24 PM
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Does any of these products offer a money back guarantee?
 
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by UltraKla$$ic
Does any of these products offer a money back guarantee?
There is a member here that will answer all your questions with no BS guaranteed. As far as money back? You can ask.

PM here: https://www.hdforums.com/forum/priva...=newpm&u=14573

Let us know what you learn. Thanks,
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 07:47 PM
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So the rest of us were BS'ing??


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There is a member here that will answer all your questions with no BS guaranteed. As far as money back? You can ask.

PM here: https://www.hdforums.com/forum/priva...=newpm&u=14573

Let us know what you learn. Thanks,
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by UltraKla$$ic
All very good feedback and much appreciated.

Streetrunner, quick question if I may:

I'm curious in your rationale when you went from one crossmember mounted device to another crossmember mounted device, what were you hoping to gain by the switch? Lastly, did it cure your wobble 100%?

Thanks in advance.
I stayed with the crossmember type because they are easy to install but I changed from Alloy Art to True Track because the A. Art did not cure the wobble 100% and after some experience and thought I felt that the True track is a better design. I never could grasp the trianulation concept of Alloy Art. The side to side stabilizer of TT makes better sense to me.

TT also offers a money back gaurantee. Also has GREAT customer service.

Since the TT install, I have only felt a little wiggle on the bars at higher speeds with certain wind conditions but I think thats just the batwing.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 09:12 PM
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It was not closed due to any mudslinging, this is how crap gets started. The threads were pulled by Terry1955 BECAUSE neither tracy NOR Bagger Brace are Forum Sponmsors and ONLY sponsors can advertise here and post group buys.
Originally Posted by sifularson
There have been HUNDREDS of feedback replies. Take a look at thse two threads.

BTW, the second thread was closed yesterday due to some mud slinging by a couple members pushing another kit. Too bad because the thread is the 3rd longest touring thread of all time. Oh well . . . all things end.

https://www.hdforums.com/forum/showt...g+link+install

https://www.hdforums.com/forum/showt...g+link+install

There are even more positive reviews. Do a search for TWR MISSING LINK STABILIZER.

Steve
 
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Emporers New Clothes
You obviously have not examined the alloy art. It has bushings that allow for some (but restricted) movement Lateral and vertical.
That's the point I'm trying to make, that the idea is to stop the lateral movement and allow the mount to move freely in a vertical and longitudinal direction. The cause of the tail-wagging problem is lateral movement of the swingarm in relation to the frame. Most of these devices use one heim joint to control lateral movement, and by so doing eliminate the objectionable behavior.

You don't want the movement laterally to be restricted, as you say, but you want to stop it. By the way it's designed the AA TXR stops longitudinal movement, which has no effect on handling at all IMO. It also at least partially restricts lateral movement, but doesn't do it directly as do the others, and this should be the only mission of these devices. So, by restricting or stopping movement both up/down and sideways, you're introducing vibration into the equation by only allowing the rear mount to move vertically.

Frankly, I'm amazed a small amount of vibration doesn't filter up to the rider with the other devices that affect only lateral movement, but I can't feel it with the Ride Str8 if it exists.

As for examining the AA unit, I don't need to touch it to see how it works. Once you look at the photos at their site and you'll see what I mean. All three heim joints are pointed front and rear, not laterally, which to me seems illogical.

keep in mind this unit is fully adjustable, allowing you to tighten the rear to your liking.
Sure, you can loosen one, tighten another, but that won't change the basic design of the unit, and all of these stabilizer products can be adjusted. There are two ways to adjust all of them: right and wrong. I don't see how adjusting the heims on the AA TXR that its basic design flaws will be lessened.

...and I would say that this too has improved the handling.
I don't doubt that the AA TXR does stabilize the bike and makes an improvement over the stock setup. I do think it is too expensive compared to the others, overly complex with three heims instead of one like all the others, and unnecessarily restricts fro-and-aft movement. This latter quality does nothing to increase stability but will increase vibration compared to the others. Thus, it may do the job, just less efficiently and costs more.

You must understand the way the pre-'09 rear mount works. The engine and swingarm move with each other but independent of the frame. Thus, all of these devices attach to the engine and frame, and this affects the movement of the swingarm. Again, it is only lateral movement we're trying to control. If I'm missing something I'm open to being corrected, as I'm eager to learn.
 

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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Emporers New Clothes
Improves Handling by triangulating Motor & Trans
in the chassis Easy bolt up installation, Eliminates
frame wobble at high speeds, or while cornering.
I would like for someone to explain why a device of this type needs to "triangulate" anything. We're only trying to restrict the lateral movement of the swingarm, and all the other devices on the market do this effectively without the additional cost and complexity. Okay, if looks are important, go for it--but you don't see these things anyway mounted under the bike.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by BigDaddyMike
It was not closed due to any mudslinging, this is how crap gets started. The threads were pulled by Terry1955 BECAUSE neither tracy NOR Bagger Brace are Forum Sponmsors and ONLY sponsors can advertise here and post group buys.
I stand corrected. Terry just decided to close the thread yesterday after it's been running for over 3 months with thousands of views and over 700 replies. You must be right.
 
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