New guy needs help asap....new bike stranded!
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From: Virginia
Very good news - sounds like a simple fix and a lesson to all - to all those that blast the Electronic Throttle Control - The ETC was working as designed and limiting the rpms and throttle response until it could be checked out.
In 1999 - while riding to Sturgis from New York, my buddy broke a throttle cable on his Road King. the next morning the remaining 2 of us went to the nearest H-D dealer - NO CABLE in stock. Called all surrounding dealers until found one - we road 200 miles out of way and lost an entire day over a freaking cable. Yea - they're great! I've been wishing for and waiting for electronic throttles ever since! (FYI - never left home without a set of cables coiled up in the bottom of the tourPak after that experience (full set,throttle,idle,clutch, speedo (yea I had an old one with a speedo cable)).
In 1999 - while riding to Sturgis from New York, my buddy broke a throttle cable on his Road King. the next morning the remaining 2 of us went to the nearest H-D dealer - NO CABLE in stock. Called all surrounding dealers until found one - we road 200 miles out of way and lost an entire day over a freaking cable. Yea - they're great! I've been wishing for and waiting for electronic throttles ever since! (FYI - never left home without a set of cables coiled up in the bottom of the tourPak after that experience (full set,throttle,idle,clutch, speedo (yea I had an old one with a speedo cable)).
At least you could have been down the road and not having to go 200 miles out of your way.
I've ridden many Harleys without the idle cable.
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Not trying to argue which is better, just wanting to state WHY we now have TBW....The true reason.
TBW was implimented to meet EPA requlations on emissions-period...That's the sole reason in a nut shell.
TBW on all vehicles provide a fully closed loop so that the ECM has full control of the throttle and will grant you the accell/decell you odered but only as long as you ain't polluting....That is why every dyno operator at first scratched their heads(Jamie included) wondering why the butterfly would never go wide open on full pulls.
Where Harley screwed up was to release it before they had all the bugs worked out.....NO car or truck goes into limp mode if you shut it down when the trhottle is depressed, then needs a silly-assed reset.
In the long run HD can make bikes cheaper with no labor time required to install and adjust cables or pay to have them made-Just the cost of a few extra wires included in a connection the laborer already has to connect anyway.
For owners, it looks better not havine cables, and if they ever work out the bugs, it can possibly prove more reliable.
This post isn't a vote for or against, just stating facts.
TBW was implimented to meet EPA requlations on emissions-period...That's the sole reason in a nut shell.
TBW on all vehicles provide a fully closed loop so that the ECM has full control of the throttle and will grant you the accell/decell you odered but only as long as you ain't polluting....That is why every dyno operator at first scratched their heads(Jamie included) wondering why the butterfly would never go wide open on full pulls.
Where Harley screwed up was to release it before they had all the bugs worked out.....NO car or truck goes into limp mode if you shut it down when the trhottle is depressed, then needs a silly-assed reset.
In the long run HD can make bikes cheaper with no labor time required to install and adjust cables or pay to have them made-Just the cost of a few extra wires included in a connection the laborer already has to connect anyway.
For owners, it looks better not havine cables, and if they ever work out the bugs, it can possibly prove more reliable.
This post isn't a vote for or against, just stating facts.
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From: Calumet City,Illinois
^^^ I have a friend of mine that has a 08 Ultra with TBW,his bike was in the shop most of last summer with problems with TBW,so whats the bike owner to do while Harley gets the bugs out??
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