Bagger Brace vs Throttle Up Touring Stabilizer
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Bagger Brace vs Throttle Up Touring Stabilizer
OK Lets get crazy... Any difference in what these two products do or how they do it? Any less ground clearance etc.? Then I guess the question is why pay the extra $100 for the bagger brace? Thanks for any input.
Pat
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Evdently you haven't that the pleasure of seeing a Bagger Brace up close, and in person.
The quality is fantastic. Each peice is CNC machined from high quality aluninum. The fit is to precision tolarances. And they use all grade eight bolts.
The way they choose to mount their brace to the oil pan is very strong and rigid, and you don't lose any ground clearance. They are also very easy to mount to the bike. Should take most any klutz only about forty five minutes to install.
For this kind of quality, I for one, don't mind paying a little more.
Besides, a Bagger Brace isn't priced nearly as high as some I've seen on the market that don't come even close to this kind of quality.
As for what engine stabilizers do, I'd have to say they all acomplish about the same thing, which is to help tie up Harleys loose ends.
Just my point of view.
The quality is fantastic. Each peice is CNC machined from high quality aluninum. The fit is to precision tolarances. And they use all grade eight bolts.
The way they choose to mount their brace to the oil pan is very strong and rigid, and you don't lose any ground clearance. They are also very easy to mount to the bike. Should take most any klutz only about forty five minutes to install.
For this kind of quality, I for one, don't mind paying a little more.
Besides, a Bagger Brace isn't priced nearly as high as some I've seen on the market that don't come even close to this kind of quality.
As for what engine stabilizers do, I'd have to say they all acomplish about the same thing, which is to help tie up Harleys loose ends.
Just my point of view.
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Both appear to be good products. But as of late the manufacturer of one of the products has been a bit too defensive/negatively loquacious (look it up..
) and this worries me.
There are several members who I believe know more than me and I trust their opinions.
With this said, if and when I get a Brace, I am going to spend the extra $100 based on what I consider "knowledgeable" forum members. Also, nothing implied or to be inferred that we all are not knowledgeable. These guys are just "heavy duty".
Do your research and draw your own conclusions, I have.
If nothing else, some of the threads are entertaining.
Good Luck..............
) and this worries me.There are several members who I believe know more than me and I trust their opinions.
With this said, if and when I get a Brace, I am going to spend the extra $100 based on what I consider "knowledgeable" forum members. Also, nothing implied or to be inferred that we all are not knowledgeable. These guys are just "heavy duty".
Do your research and draw your own conclusions, I have.
If nothing else, some of the threads are entertaining.
Good Luck..............
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If I were shopping for one, I'd probably go for the Bagger Brace. (or TWRs unit) Even if you put it up against the higher-quality units that Throttle Up is copying from, I like their design better. Reasons really boil down to the mounting of the unit to the pan. Shorter bolts/brackets and very even distribution across, and it really tucks up there nicely.
Regardless of price. If you're going to spend 20K on a ride, and then add goodies to it, I believe it's the worth extra bucks to get, what I think to be, better engineering. And to clarify engineering, things like the bolts to pan relationship, and equipment being out of harms way, mean alot to me.
Bagger Brace and TWR have what I like.
And who knows, maybe one day.............................
Regardless of price. If you're going to spend 20K on a ride, and then add goodies to it, I believe it's the worth extra bucks to get, what I think to be, better engineering. And to clarify engineering, things like the bolts to pan relationship, and equipment being out of harms way, mean alot to me.
Bagger Brace and TWR have what I like.
And who knows, maybe one day.............................
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No I haven't seen either up close...was just trying to get a handle on these different types. You would think the factory would do these relatively simple mods...Also thinking about racetech front fork mod
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One other area where I think the BB is superior to the others of this type is the piece that attaches to the tranny. A couple of the braces of this type use very long bolts through long spacers welded to a flat plate to attach to the tranny. The BB uses a nicely machined frame which fits up snug around the oil pan with 4 short bolts and 2 long bolts. I think this method does a better job of distributing the pressure on the oil pan/tranny case. As the Bagger Brace is constructed of anodized aluminum there are no worrys about rust or chipped powder coating.
Do the other braces work well? I suppose they would and some are cheaper and some are more. I just happen to like the construction of this one as compared to the others. I don't have money to throw around but I think this product is a worth the few extra dollars as compared to some of the others and happens to be cheaper than some.
Rick
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Rick did a good job of pointing out a few differences. I have only had the bagger brace in my hands, I have only saw the pics of the throttle up. The bagger brace holds to the motor/tranny much stronger than just long bolts and spacers that go into the same holes. The longer the bolts between the block and what they fasten to (oil pan) , the greater the chance for flex. The more flex, the more fatique and the greater chance for something to crack, break, fail.
I say they will both work. I don't want to knock anyone's product. The price difference is a factor. Neither one are junk. The bagger brace is stronger in my opinion, but I am not sure you would ever test the strength limits of either.
I think they are both relatively simple products to cure a problem that the factory should have addressed. But at the same time, if you don't ride hard, you would've never needed a stabilizer to start with. If you ride just hard enough to need one, strength is probably not your greatest priority.
I say they are both great products, but the bagger brace is worth the extra bucks is strength and long life is what you are after.
Dennis
I say they will both work. I don't want to knock anyone's product. The price difference is a factor. Neither one are junk. The bagger brace is stronger in my opinion, but I am not sure you would ever test the strength limits of either.
I think they are both relatively simple products to cure a problem that the factory should have addressed. But at the same time, if you don't ride hard, you would've never needed a stabilizer to start with. If you ride just hard enough to need one, strength is probably not your greatest priority.
I say they are both great products, but the bagger brace is worth the extra bucks is strength and long life is what you are after.
Dennis
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i haven't tried any of these products but they all do the same thing and there's no issue with respect to the quality of materials used, why would you pay $400, $339, or $289 for something you can get for $175? just saying....
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Yes. I have one on the Eagle.. Care to guess which one?