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Feb 20, 2009 | 01:39 PM

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jdreed520

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Bump......somebody...anybody....have an idea?

Feb 20, 2009 | 02:13 PM

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PhilM

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Something is not assembled correctly.

I'd have a real close look at the way the jackshaft is in the coupler and how it;s installed in the bushing.

I could certainly be wrong, but I just don't think that can happen if things are installed properly.

Feb 20, 2009 | 02:19 PM

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jdreed520

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Thanks Philm....i will pull it all out tonight when i get home........and thanks for your suggestion about the starter clutch assy...i will also look at this......

Feb 20, 2009 | 02:47 PM

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robzuc97

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Ditto on wrong assembly... the thrust washer (and therefore the bolt) is locked in by the lockplate which is keyed to the jackshaft keyway. For it to turn loose after proper assembly would result in the lockplate tab breaking off; a 'CAUTION' is even listed in the manual for tab alignment. 7-9 ft-lbs of torque on bolt, then bend tab over on bolt flat to lock. Dunno how the clutch ($118.00 at dealer) would affect this but mine went out few months back and all starter motor did was spin without turning the engine over.

Feb 20, 2009 | 02:55 PM

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jdreed520

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Thanks Robzuc97

I will pull it apart tonight.

Feb 20, 2009 | 03:31 PM

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PhilM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by robzuc97

Dunno how the clutch ($118.00 at dealer) would affect this but mine went out few months back and all starter motor did was spin without turning the engine over.

Do not confuse the clutch you use when shifting with the starter clutch.

The starter clutch is simple a one-way (sprag) bearing that allows the pinion gear to "pull" when the starter is spinning the clutch basket (via the ring gear) during the starting event, and free-wheel for the instant that the engine fires and spins faster than the starter motor ~ until the pinion gear retracts from the ring gear.

I hope that makes sense... I can visualize what I'm trying to say perfectly... but I'm afraid something may be lost in translation...

Feb 20, 2009 | 03:38 PM

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jdreed520

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Yea i know that.....i will take it apart tonight to see what i can find....

Feb 20, 2009 | 07:08 PM

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jdreed520

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Ok guys......Here is the answer to the delema......I am Stupid.......it was the spline coupler.........not there.......so once i broke everything down and pulled the starter there was no coupler..........So the problem was ME not the starter.......HEHEHEHEHEHE oh well i really do thank everybody for there imput.......and you guys were right on the money...it was the jack shaft put in wrong......oh well lessons learned....