PCV and EITMS not compatible?
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From: Baton Rouge, LA
I've got stock cams and I had this issue when the heat management kicked in. It's the only time I know of that it went into the skip fire. I've got a SE A/C, Jackpot muffs and a PCV.
I got caught in city traffic and it was very hard to get going when the light turned green. Then one time it just died as soon as I tried to go. I've turned off the heat management, but I wish there was another option.
I got caught in city traffic and it was very hard to get going when the light turned green. Then one time it just died as soon as I tried to go. I've turned off the heat management, but I wish there was another option.
As a work-around to the stalling problems, when it does go into EITMS mode try blipping the throttle gently before taking off. That would get it off-idle and both cylinders firing again, which might make the transition smoother.
Intermediate
Joined: Nov 2005
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From: Salt Lake City Utah
I still am running good since adding fuel to get the AFR at idle around 13.8-14.0. I also put in a Auto Tune target AFR at 750,1000, and 1250 RPM and let the auto tune adjust the idle AFR. I then left these numbers in and put the AFR target back to 0 so it won't be on at idle now. It ran fine with the auto tune adjusting at idle, but I disabled the EITMS while it set the AFR with the auto tune. I would suggest to anyone with a problem to look at the AFR at idle with the computer connected and see if it is lean. (with auto tune only)
Tourer
Joined: Jan 2008
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From: Fort Worth, Texas
I had the same issue with EITMS kicking the rear cylinder out then forgetting to blip the throttle and the bike would die. I talked with Keith at Fuel Moto and he had me adjust the base map with values and watch the AFR to maintain 13.8 to 14.0. Before I started I was getting a afr of 15.5, which was why I was getting it to kick out so quickly at stop lights.
for a newbie like me.. i dont have the AT.. can a screen capture of the tables for cylinder 1 & 2 be posted so i can referance mine and see where i can make slight adjustments... Jamie sent me a new Mapp to try , but now my bike is running hotter for some reason as well as dont like to start and go is bike is cool like 65Degrees.
i may take out the PCV and try it without... i dont stumble as much in EITMS mode as before but bike still dont like me to blipp throttle - its a 50/50 chance to stall..
by seeing some tables i can compare my orginal map and revised one so i can learn where to make the adjustment and find my good spot for EITMS issue... i agree its good to have to the AT.. but its real tight on my ABS bike to fit it all in.
this is a great thread... keep up the good info...
i may take out the PCV and try it without... i dont stumble as much in EITMS mode as before but bike still dont like me to blipp throttle - its a 50/50 chance to stall..
by seeing some tables i can compare my orginal map and revised one so i can learn where to make the adjustment and find my good spot for EITMS issue... i agree its good to have to the AT.. but its real tight on my ABS bike to fit it all in.
this is a great thread... keep up the good info...
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Road Captain
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From: SoCal
I spoke with Keith at FuelMoto this morning. He suggested I increase column "0" at the 750, 1000, 1250 rpm settings by +5. Mine were all set to "0" so I set them on both cylinders to "5". I also took the opportunity to update the firmware with the download Keith sent me. I just took it for a ride and then let it idle in the garage till EITMS kicked in and much to my surprise it came off of EITMS just like it did before the PCV was installed. I blipped it and it transitioned smoothly. How do you like that? I'm going for an extended ride on Saturday where it will be undoubtedly broiling so I'll see how it does but all is great right now 
Marc
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From: anacoco, la
It is fine with people with later 08's or 09's but us that have early 08's would have to take the bike to the dealer to get it turned off or on. I have had mine turned on but can not say that I have ever actually felt it come on but if I get the PCV and have to disable it I would have to go to the dealer and they will charge me, not sure how much but when I got it turned on they said it was free one time only?
Originally Posted by dstockton
My 03 Heritage Softail, 05 Electra Glide Classic, and 06 Ultra Classic (all TC88's) all came with EITMS enabled. In some areas, it may have come disabled but the dealer could enable it at no charge if the customer wanted.
Last edited by skratch; Jul 16, 2009 at 03:47 PM.
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From: Upstate SC
I spoke with Keith at FuelMoto this morning. He suggested I increase column "0" at the 750, 1000, 1250 rpm settings by +5. Mine were all set to "0" so I set them on both cylinders to "5". I also took the opportunity to update the firmware with the download Keith sent me. I just took it for a ride and then let it idle in the garage till EITMS kicked in and much to my surprise it came off of EITMS just like it did before the PCV was installed. I blipped it and it transitioned smoothly. How do you like that? I'm going for an extended ride on Saturday where it will be undoubtedly broiling so I'll see how it does but all is great right now
Marc
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Road Captain
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From: SoCal
Confirmed!
I spoke with Keith at FuelMoto this morning. He suggested I increase column "0" at the 750, 1000, 1250 rpm settings by +5. Mine were all set to "0" so I set them on both cylinders to "5". I also took the opportunity to update the firmware with the download Keith sent me. I just took it for a ride and then let it idle in the garage till EITMS kicked in and much to my surprise it came off of EITMS just like it did before the PCV was installed. I blipped it and it transitioned smoothly. How do you like that? I'm going for an extended ride on Saturday where it will be undoubtedly broiling so I'll see how it does but all is great right now
Marc
Marc
Marc
did u add +5 on 0% throttle to Cylinder 1 and 2 table or just Cylinder 2 or 1 ?