What you just said I did not realize or take into consideration ,relative discretion and enforcement. That is very logical. Thanks for explaining the mechanics of your job. I apologize if my comments where over the top.

 

Glad to see this all cleared up now. Now back to the original topic. I have a question on this pipe/noise issue for any Canadians here on the board. How are they up there? We are planning a trip to Victoria and BC from Colliefornia . Will we have any issues at the POE?

 

My .02, I don't see the cops rushing to crack down on it; but I see this as another tool for LEO's to use. If you are out at 2am drag pipeing down the boulevard, it gives them just cause.

Smog testing is an interesting concept; a visual check of pipes only? dyno with sniffers?

Time will tell how this will play out, but as goes Cali, so will go the US.

 

It's not so much about smog testing...it's more about noise pollution!

 

I had Reinharts on my last bike and had no problems the several times I crossed the border from either side... I shut the bike down when I stopped and not one of them indicated anything that I had too loud of pipes... I don't believe its their job to make that call anyway....

Show them respect by shutting down your bike would be a wise idea cuz they can sure make it hard to cross if you give them a reason...

And one more thing if you carry one... Leave the guns at home... They'll be confiscated if found...

 

That may be true, but in Ca it's about smog just as much as sound. The California Air Recources Board is running full steam ahead. They are the ones that require California to have special fuel additives for smog reasons that drives our gasoline prices higher, they require 4-stroke, clean burning motocross bikes to register with RED stickers and can only be ridden certain times of the year in pre-designated areas due to smog, and are currently trying to pass a bill that will make it illegal to sell any autos that are black because they are not energy efficient. And yes, there is currently legislation in the house for requiring bikes to pass SMOG tests before they get the new year tags. A forum member posted the actual bill a couple weeks ago, it makes for real interesting reading. I just hope it doesn't spread to other states.

 

Hoffy...CA has always been like that and they lead the way in these issues! But trust me...before the government hits us with SMOG related issues on our bikes...they will have to hit the biggest offenders of all and those are diesel engines!

The OP posted about noise...all four articles and about noise pollution. This will be the greatest issue we will have to suffer due the the minority that don't care who they offend with Insanely loud pipes!

The jump to our bikes being water cooled will happen in the next year or two and harley will handle that issue with the EPA then. But as long as our bikes our Air Cooled...and leaned out as much as they are...you can't do much more (well, except the the Cat. Conv. the California Harleys have). Any leaner and our bikes will be suffering us heat exhaustion even while at 60mph!

And if we do get hit with EPA mandated smog tests...well...if that's what it takes to make a greener world for My son and daughter...I can deal!

Ride Safe, Ride Sane, Mike

 

Isn't really an issue. British Columbia has a very stong biker organization. Even though all of Canada has a helmet law, in BC they can not ask you to take off your helmet as it is considered your own personal chattle (sp?). Almost like asking you to remove your leather to see if it's a Bristol or not. You can get away with novelty helmets and salad bowls. Not the case if you head west into Alberta.

As for pipes? No emmision test in BC or most of Canada. They have a hard time with noise tickets as well. They generally get thrown out of court. Too hard to test and no set Db rating in the highway traffic act.

That being said, if your going to be a dick and rip around with drag pipes through residential areas in the middle night wide open, they can bust you for stunting.

You shouldn't have any trouble crossing the boarder. They won't be looking at your bike anyway. With all the money tied up in the scooters and chrome, only an idiot would risk bringing something illegal on a bike through a boarder crossing and risk getting their bike confiscated on the spot. The boarder guards know this. They're busy looking for the 20 yr old kids driving mom and dads family sedan, a $500 car with $2000 rubber and rims and a $1000 stereo system.

As others have said.... if you have a gun, leave it at home. Don't even try it. You proably have a harder time getting back in to the US with all the questions than getting into Canada just as I have a harder time getting into Canada than the US.

 

Wish a few more officers thought like you! But really, what will they come out with next?

 

Sorry, but you guys who don't think this is going to be enforced are sadly mistaken. And even if the lawmen don't enforce it, you will be popped when you go through emissions every two years (if you live here in the Chicagoland area). I asked my salesman this question when I bought my SG last Summer, and he wouldn't give me a straight answer. I believe these emissions testing applies to bikes manufactured in '07 or later (around here anyway). I just bought a set of Rinehart true duals last weekend and plan on installing them anyway. If and when it's time for me to go through emissions, I will simply re-register my bike in the Rockford area or Southern Wisconsin where vehicles aren't subject to emissions testing (yet anyway). And I will also be sure to keep my stock pipes, air cleaner etc...

It's coming boys, it's coming. I wish it weren't true, but it is.