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Dougs Harley Davidson sells their bikes MSRP. You can get one OTD for like 18900 (EFI/Security/color). Then for like 700 bucks you can have it transported...
Thats alot cheaper I think although it might be a little bit of a hassel....
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ORIGINAL: Mitt
I seriously doubt it - when I walk into the dealer here the place is a friggin' G H O S T town bikes backed up their a$$es, the salesmen are all sitting around graba$$ing, smoking and joking. Harley is now being forced to discount their new bikes (instead of the old selling over MSRP from years past) and even that is not working.
I think - other than EPA changes it will be status-quo until things get better if they do....
come out west, they go through bikes like butter, charge over retail, 1k for freight and set up, and they sell everything they can get. They are not looking for buyers. I called an Hd dealer in Phoenix while looking for my SG and they wanted 22995 PLUS FEES AND TAX AND TITLE AND FRIEGHT!!!!! I said I can get one OTD for under 21k. He said... GO GET IT THEN I will sell this one this week. Stopped in not to long ago and it was gone.
The problem I found is that none of the dealers have them, let laone in black.
I'm hearing the Ultra's will have a special 1340cc variant of the Revolution engine and will be water cooled. Transmissions? Oh yeah! Automatics with reverse. The big option will be nitrous injection with the can hidden in the left saddle bag.
Bikes seem to be moving petty good here in the midwest. More people than ever riding. I don,t known about the 05" coming in 07 but the 6 speed trans seems to be in the plans. It would be nice if they did, and gave you the option of what cam you wanted in it. The other manufactors have the 113" on theirs standard equipment.
Here is a different perspective on the effect of EPA on engine manufacturers, as it relates to engine size. I was in the HD engine business for 10 years with Caterpillar. To meet the 2004 emmissions tier, engine displacement was increased across most of the product line for on highway truck engines. Over the last decade, engine timing had been incrementally retarded at each tier, which helps reduce emissions, but reduced fuel economy each time also. This also increased heat rejection into the cooling system. Heat rejection is a measure of engine efficiency, since the heat energy from fuel burned is split three ways: overcoming friction, turning the crankshaft, the last 30% rejected into the cooling system. By increasing engine size to produce the same power, engine efficiency is enhanced. Here is where I see the same sort of thing happening in Harley engines. The cooling fins are bigger now to deal with the additonal heat. Look at an 02 cylinder and an 04 cylinder on the same model.........you'll see it. Bigger fins are just the first step. When that will no longer work for some of the reasons I've mentioned here, the engine size will increase. Just the way I see it, 900 cubic inches or 88 cubic inches, same problem, different decade.
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