I've owned my bike for almost 1.5 years, I've spent a ton of money on it trying to get a little more out of it. As other may have done, I have not always made the best decisions. When I purchased the bike stage 1 was already completed with V&H Ovals on the bike. Later, due to the OL legs getting hot I went to true duals and XIED's. When I went to the true duals it seems I lost some performance but gained a smile from the OL due to the heat was away from her.

I wanted to gain some of my performance back so I purchased a PCV with AT from Fuelmoto thinking this would give me some of it back. I was scheduled to get a dyno tune and have a SERT installed but talking with Jamie at Fuelmoto, I decided to go the PCV route.
Now fast forward to yesterday and having my PCV and AT for a little over a month; me and my OL plus about 6 of our friends went out for a 200 mile ride. We had all types of bikes with Harley's, a Honda, & a Victory Vision. My buddy & his wife have the Victory Vision and it flat leaves my bike in the DUST. He and his wife are slightly heavier than me and my wife. He averaged about 42 mpg and I was at 37, at best. He outperformed me in every aspect of the ride and still got better mileage than myself. He never had to downshift on long hills where I had to shift from 6th to 5th to keep up with him at speeds around 70.

I'm not ranting and love the bike but really upset as with their bike being a stock bike and me spending a lot of cash to alleviate the heat and try to get some performance plus he's a pretty cocky guy and gets a smirk with his performance and fuel sipping.

So now after a lengthy post I would like some assistance that I can do to the bike for engine performance gain without having to break into the engine due to I have at least 7 months of factory warranty left. I really don't want to go back to the stock exhaust but I will if this is the best option for me. Also, I would like to get rid of the V&H Ovals due to they have gotten very loud and many in the group did not appreciate the loudness of them, they have also developed a tinny sound to them at highway speeds.

Any advice is appreciated.

 

not much you can do..You have to break into the engine & do some work..If you want mre hp & tq..

 

Going to 103" with a good tune would get you close but those Victory's run pretty strong. Look at it this way...he has to look at that thing in his garage every night and tolerate the snickers when he's out riding. You, on the other hand, ride a Harley!

 

Well 6th gear is too high at 70 mph to be anywhere near any useable power. I changed the primary sprocket to a 30 tooth:
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/touri...re-useful.html
I also went with true duals, however I did finally get it Dyno Tuned at:
http://mysite.verizon.net/res07ude/t...ellc/id16.html
Where alot of guys in the DFW area get theirs done.
I did a Arlen Ness big sucker air cleaner prior to that.
I was told by the dyno tuner that I needed to keep the rpms higher than I had been (2K).
So now I ride at or near 3K unless im getting on the freeway (then higher while shifting).
The bike runs well, smoother and has more power.

 

RockinRod,

Thanks for the advice. Actually that was the place where I was going to have my bike dyno tuned but decided on the PCV & Auto Tuner. Maybe I made a mistake in having this done, seems more money down the drain.
Also, what have you been averaging with fuel mileage and what type of pipes are you running?

 

So did you buy the Ultra with the main mission of outrunning everyone? If that was the goal you should've looked into an LT1200 or GW, as HD's appeal isn't in its *****-to-the-wall performance. What you have, however, is a very good powerplant that has potential if you make the right upgrades. You've made a good start with the PCV-AT, so it's time to keep on going.

Your friend has one disadvantage: If he looks at his bike too long it will make him nauseous. You can smirk back at him every time you are forced to cast eyes on his garish Victory Vision, conceived and sculpted by the Buck Rogers design team. Looks aren't everything but in this case they negate every good quality the bike has...IMHO.

You can increase your mileage greatly by leaning the target AFR's in the cruise range, which I can help you with if you are interested. This will increase heat but to compensate add an oil cooler. Yes, more money, but some things you just gotta do if you want more.

Going to the FM Jackpot mufflers or 2-into-1's will produce some modest gains, but the next big step would be cams and/or larger engine displacement, both of which would likely affect your warranty. This depends on the attitude of your dealer, so ask them about a Stage II upgrade. This ups the displacement to 103ci, compression is increased a bit to 9.5:1 with the flat-top pistons, and the very good SE255 cams are in the kit. Ask your dealer if making the upgrade now will affect your warranty.

OTOH you will realize a meaningful increase in performance in the low-end and midrange with SE255 cams alone, as well as a much better ability to hold onto the higher gears climbing hills. By not increasing displacement you should be able to do the upgrade without affecting mileage, at least not meaningfully. I have the 255's with the Fuel Moto Power Package, including PCV-AT, and the bike's performance on a recent trip to the Smokies was very rewarding. Climbing hills was a breeze with minimal downshifting, much better than stock--and without a mileage penalty. FWIW I got up to 50mpg on the trip and averaged 44.3 overall, good enough to beat your friend's Vision. So if you're still keeping score that would mean that you beat him in visual appeal and probably mileage, and would at least close the gap in performance. I ride solo, so that makes a difference, but doing these things will help in your case.

Actually, I wouldn't even worry about the Victory. If you like the bike just live with its shortcomings, as they all have some and none are perfect in all respects.

Fuel Moto's Dyno-Tuned Jackpots with the PCV you already have will give you a few extra HP and TQ points, so you might give them a try. They are relatively quiet (1.9db louder than stock) and have an excellent tone that won't make your ears ring after a long ride. The stock pipes will hurt performance, so that isn't an option if you're looking to improve it.

 

I would advise against removing the PCV-AT and going with SEST plus a dyno tune at this stage. The PCV-AT should be optimizing what you have right now and SEST won't likely improve it at all. Remember that both simply meter the fuel and the trick is to have either configured properly. To accomplish this SEST requires a dyno-tune while the PCV-AT tunes on the fly, and the target AFR's used by Fuel Moto are ideal for performance. As I said earlier, mileage can improve with the right adjustments to the cruise range, which can be done without adversely affecting performance.

 

Fuel Mileage = I dont know. Bout the time I need a break. Sorry I never follow that.
B&E Supperflows:
http://www.superflowmufflers.com/products.htm
Make sure you have your sound off when you click the link.

Your next question = 2" baffles.

Samson true dual on right side - B&E on the left. Samson didnt fit the left side. Said they didnt care - I bought em - I own em.
Suggestion = Dont buy Samson.

 

There is a very easy solution to your problem, IMHO:

Look at your bike and decide:

I love this bike,

I don't love this bike

If you don't love it, cut your losses, if you do love it - leave it alone and enjoy it

 

Dude, first off let me just say that is about as stunning looking a Hog as I have ever seen! If I had the money that is just the color combo I would choose

Look at ya, here you have an Ultra Classic, AN ULTRA CLASSIC!!! You are sitting on top of the HD foodchain dude, it just doesn't get any better than what you have! You might need to slap yourself in the face a couple of times to wake up from the mopes you've momentarily slid into. No big deal, these moments happen in life, just snap out of it.

So smirk sporting ahole acquaintance of yours thinks he's cool cause he's riding a machine with the pizazz of a farking blender! Screw that smoe! Or, who gives a shiznit what Smedlap there thinks. I guarantee you he's hiding some severe jealousy over what you're riding! Hell, his wife probably made him choose that bike over the Hog he wanted cause she bosses his little weiner around at the house too!

Your UC is never gonna win the races against the other bikes of this world. Hells bells, even John Q. Littlepecker there on his blender would get blown away by a BMW. Nice as they are but those two touring bikes are just like a kitchen appliance when it comes to character.

Don't get me wrong, I wish my UC had the ability to be the fastest bike on the planet; I've ridden many fast bikes and they are fun to be sure. But you got the UC for what it is and what it has.

I think you did waste some money getting the Xied thing when you also got TD's. TD's alone eliminate the heating problem.

I did the Stage II 103" w/255 cams and I still wish it had 100 more horsepower and 500lbs more of torque. But you know what, the more I ride it the more I'm pleased with it. I've got a smooth riding machine w/cruise, stereo, CB, ABS, and it looks as cool as cool gets.

For the most power out of the engine I'd go with a 2 into 1 though. Get a nice quiet one and remember to appreciate what you got. And I know how having bikes goes, I wish I had a couple of other bikes. But I'm very tickled to have this one!

Best of luck and keep us informed. And don't ride with John Q. Smugface Littlepecker anymore cause he sounds like a dick.