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Im in the process of ordering the full power package from Fuel Moto (air intake, power commander, true duals, and mufflers). What kind of time am I looking at to get all this installed?
Im trying to plan a ride for next Sunday but I wont have much time on Saturday to work on everything. So realistically, how long should everything take to install?
Im in the process of ordering the full power package from Fuel Moto (air intake, power commander, true duals, and mufflers). What kind of time am I looking at to get all this installed?
Im trying to plan a ride for next Sunday but I wont have much time on Saturday to work on everything. So realistically, how long should everything take to install?
This is on a 07 Road King Classic.
First, Fuel Moto is closed today and Friday because they're moving their shop, open again Monday. They are very quick to ship and once you receive it you should be looking at maybe one hour at most to install the whole caboodle.
Are you sure you want true duals, as they will hurt performance. The Power Package is for use on stock head pipes and you can't use the Dyno Tuned Jackpot mufflers on a true-dual exhaust system. The Classic Jackpots will work, however. Call Jamie on Monday and he'll explain your many options.
BTW, install everything together, then crank the bike. Don't install the mufflers and AC, crank the bike to listen to the new sound, then install the PCV. It's a long story that I won't belabor, but it isn't a good idea.
Forgive me for my ignorance, but why do the duals hurt performance? I do like the cleaner look of the duals, but if its that big a difference in performance then Ill keep what I have and add the mufflers only.
I was going to run the Rineharts not the Jackpots.
Is the PC-V a straight forward install? Do I remove something and then add this unit or does this unit just plug into the wiring system somewhere? Im assuming instructions are included.
Forgive me for my ignorance, but why do the duals hurt performance? I do like the cleaner look of the duals, but if its that big a difference in performance then Ill keep what I have and add the mufflers only.
I was going to run the Rineharts not the Jackpots.
Is the PC-V a straight forward install? Do I remove something and then add this unit or does this unit just plug into the wiring system somewhere? Im assuming instructions are included.
Hard to explain but bottom line, tru duals do not assist it extracting exhaust as well as other systems. Back pressure is also involved.
As to installation time, no way do you install ac, mufflers and PC in 1 hour.
It's all easy stuff but your old mufflers ain't going to fall off, your going to need to follow instructions on the a/c change and you should download the Power Commander software to your computer.
From the questions you ask I'd bet 2 hours minimum. Still easy stuff tho.
Forgive me for my ignorance, but why do the duals hurt performance? I do like the cleaner look of the duals, but if its that big a difference in performance then Ill keep what I have and add the mufflers only.
Call Fuel Moto and quiz them about the effects on HP and TQ numbers, as I don't know. NVSteve explained it well, exhaust reversion being the culprit. The fix is a crossover pipe like you have in the stock system that reduces the reversion. True-duals will hurt mostly the bottom end and I believe the adverse effects on top-end performance declines as engine mods increase. I don't think the negative effects are great, as some claim they can't feel them, but they are there.
I was going to run the Rineharts not the Jackpots.
Compared to the Dyno-Tuned Jackpots you will lose a couple of HP and similar amount of TQ with Reinharts and the latter will cost about $200 more. DTJ's are very close or equal to a 2-into-1 for performance, and are much cheaper than either 2-into-1's or Reinharts.
Is the PC-V a straight forward install? Do I remove something and then add this unit or does this unit just plug into the wiring system somewhere? Im assuming instructions are included.
Yes, it has instructions and is plug-and-play. If you buy from Fuel Moto you will also get an accurate map for your bike and a double-warranty (2 years). On an '07 and earlier the install is about 10 min. after you remove the right side cover. On '08 bikes it's about the same on non-ABS, and I believe it also goes under the right side cover, but more of a hassle on ABS bikes since the PCV must be stuffed under the seat where there is little room. The '09's are reportedly simple to install under the seat, where there is more than ample room thanks to the new frame.
FuelMoto's power package took me about 2 hours to install ... but I like to take my time. Actually taking that throttle body support bracket off must've taken 20 minutes. Pain in the butt. The bolts were tight to the last thread. BTW the 3rd smallest Allen wrench from the toolkit works. The other part that was a bit tricky was tucking the stock ECM connector in the space between the battery and the tank. DynoJet could consider adding a couple plugs for the disconnected O2 sensors. I'll probably just pack them with some dielectric grease ... as soon as I remember were I last left it.
The best part is the end result. IMO the FuelMoto crew have done an absolute fantastic job in the supplied map. The throttle picks up silky smooth right through the rev range. Going the other way is just as good, no decel popping whatsoever. The Jackpot exhaust note is deep and rich. I read once iclick describe the Jackpots aproximately +2 dB as about 25% louder than stock. This seems about right to me. And you can definately notice the extra power. Another thing I like about the slipons - no brand name badge. To the untrained eye they look stock.
Topping it all off is the price. It's great to get such a quality product and not be bent over in the process. A slam dunk FuelMoto! Thanks.
another vote for the fuel moto power package with the jackpot dyno tuned mufflers. They sound great and an increase in power that I can feel. And the install was very simple. Even those that are not born to wrench can do this job. But if you want over the top loud, the Jackpots are not the answer
The AC install take the longest. It's pretty quick if you take the tank off, but I left the tank on, and there's not a lot of room to work with those two bolts - which, as already mentioned, are tight to the last thread.
Re: the exhaust not "falling off," I guess that depends on how long you've had them on there. My left nearly fell off. The right, I squirted a little WD-40 while doing other things, a couple light taps with a rubber mallet, and it came off easy enough. I swapped mufflers in about 10-15 minutes, start to finish.
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