Touring Models Road King, Road King Custom, Road King Classic, Road Glide, Street Glide, Electra Glide, Electra Glide Classic, and Electra Glide Ultra Classic bikes.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Starting the EFI Harley Davidson motorcycle

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 16, 2009 | 10:35 AM
  #11  
ken thompson's Avatar
ken thompson
The Schlong Man
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,772
Likes: 4
From: Nantucket
Default

Seems to me that once the bike is done priming the fuel system you then immediately being to lose fuel pressure. Starting the bike while late in the priming phase gives the highest fuel pressure and hence a quicker start. I dunno. My bike may not start quicker but I certainly have much fewer bad starts when I start while the bike is priming.
 
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2009 | 10:39 AM
  #12  
BadBobOk's Avatar
BadBobOk
Ultimate HDF Member
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 7,773
Likes: 7
From: Central Oklahoma
Default

Originally Posted by OLD 96
I know this for a fact . I have seen it said here. I have done it myself. If you push the stater button as soon as you turn the ignition on it will start quicker than if you wait for all the "idiot" lights to go out. Which does not make sense to me. It seems if all the lights are out and everything is programmed to go it would start quicker than when all the lights (indicaters) are still on. Would someone less ignorant than I please explain this phenomenon. Thanks. OLD 96.
This is a know issue with power commanders. No big deal, just start it up before the engine check light goes out.
 
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2009 | 02:23 PM
  #13  
vindyl's Avatar
vindyl
Road Master
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 821
Likes: 1
From: In the wind
Default

My nieghbor has an 07 and starts it right away. He was having an issue with the starter kinda "skipping" when he waited on the light. Now it NEVER "skips" He thinks the small amount of drain on the battery waiting although it is VERY minimal it must be enough to drag the starter down.
 
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2009 | 02:28 PM
  #14  
backdoc_rider's Avatar
backdoc_rider
Tourer
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 332
Likes: 0
From: Smithfield, NC
Default

sounds like lots of speculation on all of our parts. I was told by the salesman to wait. I haven't seen a problem in doing this. The bike always starts right up. I wish someone who really knew would chime in and let us know. I did notice the time I had the bike in the shop that the tech just started it right up. Who knows.
 
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2009 | 02:39 PM
  #15  
carlgrover's Avatar
carlgrover
Seasoned HDF Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 8,852
Likes: 2,494
From: Decatur, Alabama
Default

I have a 98 Road King (EFI) and all you need to wait for is the fuel pump to get up to pressure before hitting the start button. That is way before the idiot lights go out. You should be able to hear it when you turn on the ignition.
 
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2009 | 02:44 PM
  #16  
barkster99's Avatar
barkster99
Tourer
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 301
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by BadBobOk
This is a know issue with power commanders. No big deal, just start it up before the engine check light goes out.
As stated above. Definitely the case with my PCIII. Believe someone on this forum said it wasn't the case with the PCV. So, Old 96, do you have a Power Commander???
 
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2009 | 03:14 PM
  #17  
iclick's Avatar
iclick
Extreme HDF Member
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,615
Likes: 50
From: Baton Rouge, LA
Default

Originally Posted by rochkes
The diagnostic check that is being done when you first turn the ignition switch on will finish with or without the bike running. It will not hurt the bike in any way shape or form to start it before the yellow light goes out.
This is true. It is also true that neither my owner's nor service manual says anything about waiting.

This is covered in the SERT manual. Somebody posted it on here before. The theory behind the difference in starting immediatly and waiting for the light goes out is that there is one pulse of fuel that goes into the motor as soon as the ignition switch is turned on. Especially if the motor is hot, that fuel will vaporize or dissapate before the light goes out.
I didn't know that, so thanks for sharing it! My bike (TC96 with SE255's) starts better without waiting.

BTW, how do find gas that will run in that bike without detonation?! I didn't know it was possible to run SE255's and 10.5 CR in the same bike on pump gas.
 
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2009 | 03:14 PM
  #18  
skratch's Avatar
skratch
Seasoned HDF Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 20,616
Likes: 4,440
From: anacoco, la
Default

Originally Posted by CrackOfDawn
if the manual says to let the idiot light go out before starting to avoid potential problems, I can live with that.
i'm not sure on the newer manuals, but i can tell you that the 07 manual does not mention that you have to wait for the light to go out before starting. if you read it, it does mention that it will take 3-4 seconds before the light goes out, but not that you have to wait.

and because i have a pciii, i get that hard start feature, so what i do is turn the ignition on, let the computer cycle through its checks, then hit the run button, wait 1-2 secs for the fuel system to prime, then hit the start button. fires right up, been doing it this way for 3 years now and no issues.
 
Reply
HD Forum Stories

The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders

story-0

7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jul 16, 2009 | 03:23 PM
  #19  
papifun's Avatar
papifun
Outstanding HDF Member
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 2,056
Likes: 2
From: Quebec,Canada
Default

with PCV - ya will turn over few times if i wait till engine light goes out....
Starts quickly if i start right after i switch to run from Off.

no problems or differance starting without PCV if i wait or fire up quickly.
 
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2009 | 03:23 PM
  #20  
ezriderpgh's Avatar
ezriderpgh
Stellar HDF Member
15 Year Member
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,156
Likes: 1
From: Pittsburgh, PA
Default

My bike starts immediately when i hit start, whether I wait for the light to go out or not. So I figure, if the experts (MOCO) say to wait for the light to go off why not wait? I'm pretty sure they know what they are talking about and have a reason for it.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:47 PM.

story-0
7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson built its reputation on nostalgia, but every so often, the company took a hard left turn into the future.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 11:18:19


VIEW MORE
story-1
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

Slideshow: The bar-and-shield logo shows up on far more than motorcycles, some of the company's most unexpected products have nothing to do with riding.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 16:50:35


VIEW MORE
story-2
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: Not every Harley gets it right, but these are the ones that genuinely earned their reputation.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-15 14:23:21


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: From the troubled AMF years to modern misfires, these bikes earned reputations for reliability issues, questionable engineering, or disappointing performance.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-01 20:01:09


VIEW MORE
story-4
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

Slideshow: Killer Custom's "Jail Breaker" build focuses more on stance and visual aggression than mechanical overhaul.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-18 19:20:32


VIEW MORE
story-5
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

Slideshow: The Swiss custom shop has taken a Harley Softail and stretched it into something so long and low that it looks closer to a rolling sculpture than a conventional motorcycle.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-07 16:15:30


VIEW MORE
story-6
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's new RMCR concept revives the café racer formula with modern hardware-and it may be exactly the reset the company needs.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-04 12:23:37


VIEW MORE
story-7
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

Slideshow: A standard cruiser becomes an intricate metal canvas in the hands of a Swiss custom house known for pushing Harley-Davidson platforms far beyond their factory brief.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-02-24 18:19:44


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There is no shortage of great motorcycles to buy, but we would avoid these ten.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-02-19 14:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's challenges aren't abstract; they show up in dropping shipments, shrinking dealer traffic, and strategic decisions that aren't yet translating into growth.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-13 18:33:17


VIEW MORE