ABS warning!!!
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From: Missouri
10 feet from a stopped car and you're going fast enough to leave skid marks? There's nothing that says because you have ABS you have to lock the brakes up. Do you want to lock and skid a non abs bike? Can you prove a non abs bike with the brakes locked up would have stopped faster? Good thing we have a choice and hopefully we always will. Read some of the replies, one car crashed because of abs one car didn't because of abs. Personal opinion isn't fact it just your opinion, mine is I wouldn't buy a bike without it now.
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From: Creola, AL.
I don't think ABS was invented to eliminate accidents when your going 10 mph. It was invented more for higher speed panic braking. And I would expect the "pulses" to be more pronounced at lower speeds. There is a direct relationship to the speed of the wheel. I have tried to get mine to lock up and skid, and I can't.
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Glad you're OK, seriously. That said, it sounds to me like you're looking for a scapegoat for sloppy riding. Running into the back of a car that changed it's mind is just that - bad riding due to laziness, distraction.
In 10 ft, your touring wheel turned exactly 1 and a half times. The Harley ABS uses a single sensor. It's highly unlikely ABS kicked in at all. You probably locked up your wheel on an uneven surface and would have done so on any bike.
Just remember folks, their ANTI-LOCK brakes, not MAGIC brakes for cryin' out loud.
In 10 ft, your touring wheel turned exactly 1 and a half times. The Harley ABS uses a single sensor. It's highly unlikely ABS kicked in at all. You probably locked up your wheel on an uneven surface and would have done so on any bike.
Just remember folks, their ANTI-LOCK brakes, not MAGIC brakes for cryin' out loud.
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From: Oklahoma City
Read the Manual unless you got it used and the original owner kept it.
A little education for those who think they're ABS experts. " The ABS monitors sensors at the front and rear wheels to determine wheel speed. If the system detects one or both wheels are slowing down to quickly, which indicates they are close to locking, or if the deceleration rate does not match a criteria stored in memory, the ABS reacts. The system rapidly opens and closes valves to modulate the brake pressure being applied by the rider. During ABS activation, the system provides the electronic equivalent of manually pumping the brakes and is capable of cycling up to seven times per second." The M.O.M. goes on to say " ABS is not a substitute for safe riding." and just like in your 4-wheels you have to hold the brakes on and let the system do the pumping/modulating. There is a WARNING, "ABS cannot prevent lockup of rear wheel due to engine braking. ABS will not aid in cornering or on loose/uneven surfaces."
If you think the ABS screwed up, take pictures. Take them to the dealer and see what happens.
This system is very close to what we have on our jet(E-6B), and we're stopping anywhere from 200K-250K lbs of metal, rubber, flesh and blood. The only time we've had tires blow is because the system was faulty. Which is once maybe twice and there was no indication it was faulty. If we see 4 release lights, we're good, if we have something less or a known system fault which would render them inoperative, we multiple our calculated landing distance by 1.6.
A little education for those who think they're ABS experts. " The ABS monitors sensors at the front and rear wheels to determine wheel speed. If the system detects one or both wheels are slowing down to quickly, which indicates they are close to locking, or if the deceleration rate does not match a criteria stored in memory, the ABS reacts. The system rapidly opens and closes valves to modulate the brake pressure being applied by the rider. During ABS activation, the system provides the electronic equivalent of manually pumping the brakes and is capable of cycling up to seven times per second." The M.O.M. goes on to say " ABS is not a substitute for safe riding." and just like in your 4-wheels you have to hold the brakes on and let the system do the pumping/modulating. There is a WARNING, "ABS cannot prevent lockup of rear wheel due to engine braking. ABS will not aid in cornering or on loose/uneven surfaces."
If you think the ABS screwed up, take pictures. Take them to the dealer and see what happens.
This system is very close to what we have on our jet(E-6B), and we're stopping anywhere from 200K-250K lbs of metal, rubber, flesh and blood. The only time we've had tires blow is because the system was faulty. Which is once maybe twice and there was no indication it was faulty. If we see 4 release lights, we're good, if we have something less or a known system fault which would render them inoperative, we multiple our calculated landing distance by 1.6.
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