CA Emissions????
Road Master
Joined: Apr 2006
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From: North Edwards, CA
OK, I appreciate all of your answers, but I really needed to get the straight answer (before I bought an out of state bike) so I called CA Air Resources Board, the emissions authority in CA.
Guy told me, plain as day, you CANNOT bring a vehicle into CA with less than 7500 miles on it UNLESS it is FACTORY (as in Manufacturer-no after market) CERTIFIED as a CA emission compliant. PERIOD. Motorcycles will have up to three stickers on the neck--- Federal EPA--- 49 state EPA and/or CA EPA
Unless the vehicle is CERTIFIED or EXEMPT (don't know what that is) until it passes 7500 miles, it is forbidden in CA--- AND, if you try to bring one in, it WILL BE blacklisted, meaning that it can NEVER be registered in CA, regardless of the mileage.
wow! harsh! --- really bites, thought I'd found my perfect scoot out in the heartland---
Guy told me, plain as day, you CANNOT bring a vehicle into CA with less than 7500 miles on it UNLESS it is FACTORY (as in Manufacturer-no after market) CERTIFIED as a CA emission compliant. PERIOD. Motorcycles will have up to three stickers on the neck--- Federal EPA--- 49 state EPA and/or CA EPA
Unless the vehicle is CERTIFIED or EXEMPT (don't know what that is) until it passes 7500 miles, it is forbidden in CA--- AND, if you try to bring one in, it WILL BE blacklisted, meaning that it can NEVER be registered in CA, regardless of the mileage.
wow! harsh! --- really bites, thought I'd found my perfect scoot out in the heartland---
-clutch-
P.S. Don't try this at home...especially since you went looking for an answer at the DMV
Novice
Joined: Oct 2006
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I bought a bike on this forum last year from a guy in Florida, had 1000 miles on it and was less than a year old. Shipped it to CA, reged and tagged it no issues, as far as paying sales tax, you got that right! If you owned it for (I think) over 1 year you are exempt from the taxes, if not you will pay. They took my word on how much I paid for the bike to base the taxes off of, I should have bent the truth a bit more to save $$$
Road Warrior
Joined: May 2006
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From: SoCal
I bought a bike on this forum last year from a guy in Florida, had 1000 miles on it and was less than a year old. Shipped it to CA, reged and tagged it no issues, as far as paying sales tax, you got that right! If you owned it for (I think) over 1 year you are exempt from the taxes, if not you will pay. They took my word on how much I paid for the bike to base the taxes off of, I should have bent the truth a bit more to save $$$
Last edited by Firetender; Aug 17, 2009 at 11:40 PM.
Road Warrior
Joined: May 2006
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From: SoCal
I live in Cali...we don't smog test bikes, and I haven't heard anything about starting. As far as out of state bikes go; I inherited my brother's 06 Fatboy (from Indiana) the 1st part of January this year. The bike had rush slip ons loud enough to set off car alarms (no exaggeration)...I rode it to the DMV (By the way it only had 2k miles on it) and registered/plated it with no problem. The lady even had to come out and check the odometer.
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http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/09-10/bil...ntroduced.html
Last edited by Firetender; Aug 17, 2009 at 11:52 PM.
Cruiser
Joined: May 2009
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From: Redding, CA
The 2006 Fat Boy probably got in because in addition to the 7500 mile rule, there is also an exemption if the vehicle is over a certain age, and I believe it is 3 years. So, if a 2006 Fat Boy shows a manufacture date of 09/05, after 09/08, it can be "imported" into California regardless of mileage. But, you cannot "import" a new 49-state vehicle into California if you are a Califronia resident. Not saying that DMV sometimes "screws up", but that is a rare exception and I would not buy a new scoot hoping to get lucky!
Road Warrior
Joined: May 2006
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From: SoCal
If you tell DMV you paid $1 for your motorcycle/car/truck, they charge you fees (taxes) to recoup the sales tax you would have paid at a dealer, not based on the 1$. You won't save any money. You can save some money by getting a good deal through a licensed dealership because their paperwork will drive the DMV fees. I have an (expired) state sellers' license for CA.
Also, if you register out of state, you'll need an out-of-state driver's license and an insurance policy that has that address as your residence. If not AZ and NV would be the only plates you'd see on California highways!!!
California DMV is wise to all the usual tricks. Don't bother!
Also, if you register out of state, you'll need an out-of-state driver's license and an insurance policy that has that address as your residence. If not AZ and NV would be the only plates you'd see on California highways!!!
California DMV is wise to all the usual tricks. Don't bother!
Last edited by Firetender; Aug 18, 2009 at 11:04 AM.
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Tourer
Joined: Aug 2007
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From: California
I absolutely don't doubt someone told you that. I also absolutely 100% am sure that I took a 2006 Fatboy with less than 2000 miles on it, and a PCIII & a set of Rush slip ons to the Ridgecrest DMV & got it registered, odometer certified, and plated. Did I start it up for the lady....nope (she didn't ask me to)...but I can promise ya I rattled their windows when I came into the parking lot, and when I left. Oh yeah...one other thing, 2 weeks ago I traded it in to the dealer with the same build on it and less than 4k miles. Another froum member (tegsand) can verify all of this. He's my neighbor & was with me when I traded the bike in.
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P.S. Don't try this at home...especially since you went looking for an answer at the DMV
-clutch-
P.S. Don't try this at home...especially since you went looking for an answer at the DMV
Hey Clutch--- no one is doubting your word--- DMV folks screw up all the time--- but, I didn't ask DMV about this, I asked CARB--- and a certified VIN inspector--- once you had it registered (even by mistake of DMV) then the next owner is OK--- it is just the first registration that counts--
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Tourer
Joined: Aug 2007
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From: California
The 2006 Fat Boy probably got in because in addition to the 7500 mile rule, there is also an exemption if the vehicle is over a certain age, and I believe it is 3 years. So, if a 2006 Fat Boy shows a manufacture date of 09/05, after 09/08, it can be "imported" into California regardless of mileage. But, you cannot "import" a new 49-state vehicle into California if you are a Califronia resident. Not saying that DMV sometimes "screws up", but that is a rare exception and I would not buy a new scoot hoping to get lucky!